Aug 28, 2019
Drop and give us 20...pumps that is. This week Samantha Mac (@TheSamanthaMack), founder of Porno Bootcamp whips Alice and Yvette into shape on all topics bootcamp related, fidget spinner buttplugs, dresses banned on social media, voar, body positivity, and washing your junk.
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Yvette d'Entremont 0:09
Welcome to two girls one Mic the porn cast that once you're
addicted, get down and give us 20 of your cover. See that dawn
Travon, here's my lovely fabulous co host who is having a fantastic
hair day Alice Vaughn Alice, how the fuck are you doing today?
Baby?
Alice Vaughn 0:24
I feel like I'm having a fantastic like cleavage day too, because
even though Can you
Yvette d'Entremont 0:28
stand up a bit, I need to I need to evaluate this as your co host
and lesbian life partner if we were lesbians. That is a good
cleavage day.
Alice Vaughn 0:38
I'll give you we will sell mine Louie says but without the
Yvette d'Entremont 0:41
death into the sunset. It's hetero life, mate. We're each other's
Jay and Silent Bob. Except it's more like occasionally you
interrupt me more than once to say no ticket. Oh, but uh, yeah, I
mean, even though I'm part of the itty bitty titty club. I find
that what's nice about having the top of a 12 year old ballerina
girl, my boobs are gonna be working till I'm like 40. Right? I want
to say maybe I am likewise, like now that with the amount of weight
loss, they're like, they're not quite filling up my big cups
anymore. But I'm like, you know what, they're not going to be in my
socks. But there are advantages to all size movies and all movies
that I've seen in my life. They're just all different flowers of
joy. But they're just, they're wonderful. I have never had a
complaint about a boob that I have seen in my life.
Alice Vaughn 1:27
I've never heard someone complain about boobs. What kind of person
is now don't have that person in your life.
Yvette d'Entremont 1:33
You know what, here's the thing. I think I went until like my late
20s being uncomfortable with my boobs. I know it's hard on women
like that. Like we see certain sizes and shapes to them. And we're
told these are the good boobs. And then something something magical
happens that eventually you realize, oh, there's not a boob type
that men like, it's just boobs. They are good. They're all what
it's you see enough of them and you go I like those. I also like
that they are very different. I like them exactly. And then you
realize eventually I have good boobs too.
Alice Vaughn 2:01
So we have a guest today who has voluptuous breasts, though who
Yvette d'Entremont 2:04
has amazing boobs speaking of boobs, she has enough boobs for the
three of us combined, but it's pretty amazing to watch them on her
herself. We have a legend on today and I was so excited when I
watched a brief documentary and her advice about her porno boot cab
Alice, let's introduce our guest today.
Alice Vaughn 2:24
Today on the show we have Samantha Mack and Samantha actually, the
porno boot camp is exactly how I heard about you. I think Tommy
retweeted it. It was shot by Vice Canada. Yep, sure was. So how did
this whole thing come about? Well, a long
Samantha Mac 2:40
time ago. I was working with a director called Anna Lee. She's not
called Emily, her name is Emily. And she she needed
Yvette d'Entremont 2:50
new to never tell with porn. It might be a porn name. Actually.
Samantha Mac 2:55
She needed a new talent and we have a lot of people applying who
didn't have a lot of experience and She kind of voluntold me that I
was doing porno boot camp so she sent a couple to me. She's like,
go see Sam. She works with amateurs. She runs like a porno boot
camp and she'll help you get the skills you need to get hired. And
so I didn't want to make her out to be a liar. So I was like, Yeah,
come on over.
Yvette d'Entremont 3:19
Interesting thing for a friend to wholeheartedly trust you with she
will make your dick better. That is it. I
Samantha Mac 3:28
didn't want to make her a liar. So I had to be true so she is
Unknown Speaker 3:31
the dick better upper like who is a whisper?
Yvette d'Entremont 3:38
You need business cards that say that right, Sam back tech
whisperer.
Alice Vaughn 3:42
I will make you those business cards. Just send me your Actually I
have your mailing address. I'll send you just like 500 a day.
Yvette d'Entremont 3:51
Yes, just to clarify, we're saying this all because we love what
you do. This is just incredible to us and we dig it so much.
Alice Vaughn 3:58
Yeah, cuz we review porn. All the time. But you know, we've always
kind of wanted to know a little bit more behind the scenes of what
training is involved why certain men are cut out for the job and
some men just aren't. And you know, watching the porno boot camp
which will absolutely link in the show notes for all of
Yvette d'Entremont 4:19
us have to watch this. It's like I want to see more behind the
scenes on this like this has made me have so many more questions.
Yeah, these guys just at one point, there's just kind of a
challenge like the big thing of a video is there's a challenge of
getting through eight minutes of being blown without coming and you
know, getting through all the distraction like it's like you're
getting blown by the best women in the industry. Can you handle it?
I'm like, this is a reality show waiting to happen. How is rupert
murdoch not jumped on this. I'm a horrible person that I know
Alice Vaughn 4:50
it. Okay. Well, I mean, if that roger ailes jumped on it, that's
how all the Fox News women were hired. Let's be
Yvette d'Entremont 4:57
honest, if hell exists They're all right. But I will have
friends
Alice Vaughn 5:02
if the Fox News headquarters exists this challenge also exists
there too.
Unknown Speaker 5:07
Oh my god.
Yvette d'Entremont 5:11
I'm gonna get a phone call from Fox info two girls one Mike is
where you should send all hate mail By the way, where we will
totally respond to it as though we care.
Alice Vaughn 5:21
So, Sam, how hard is it for a guy while getting blown to come to
the as close to the eight minute mark as possible.
Samantha Mac 5:30
So what you see in the vice documentary is what we consider level
two. There's like 13 courses, but what you saw was level two
he's
Yvette d'Entremont 5:38
like beat the first boss. He's on to the next castle.
Samantha Mac 5:41
Yes. And then in the end you have to fight Kim Koopa
Yvette d'Entremont 5:46
right, what's King Koopa I got it. It's my vagina. I would have
thought like more that not that your vagina is not sufficient. I
would have thought like it would have been a triple Angel thing or
something like that. But like, but you know what? That is a tall
mountain to climb. I am impressed.
Samantha Mac 6:01
I'm only half joking on that,
Alice Vaughn 6:02
that when you just rename it King fuba
Samantha Mac 6:08
I'm stealing that you're allowed. I love it. That is perfect. But
ya know, we, we start off with the guys coming in and just doing
like a solo interview with us. And then we do a timed like a one on
one timed handjob to see if they can come at the eight minute mark
and the eight minute mark is less than half of what's actually
required. So we start them off really easy because what we've
noticed is a lot of guys last but fastest guy was 35 seconds. The
average is between three and six minutes. Or we get the opposite
end of the spectrum where a guy cannot come in like an hour they
get a one hour time slot to ask all their questions, fill out all
the paperwork and if they cannot finish within one hour, then we're
like you need to go home and practice like watch some porn
Yvette d'Entremont 6:54
figure out what will get you there mentally and then they
Samantha Mac 6:57
get to go to what we call musical decks which was what was In the
vice documentary was a musical dexis session, and the vice
documentary was the first time we allowed talent to give oral
pleasure. It used to only be handjobs. But for the vice
documentary, we wanted to spice it up a little bit. So we allowed
girls to use their mouths or everyone was tested so they could use
any parts of their bodies to distract the
Yvette d'Entremont 7:22
audience's sake. Explain a little bit what musical Dix entails. Oh,
yeah.
Samantha Mac 7:28
Okay, so if you guys haven't seen the video musical Dix is really
fun, enticed them
Yvette d'Entremont 7:31
into wanting to see this video, which is you guys have to see this
even with a description you have to see this. Here's
Alice Vaughn 7:36
a kicker, you still play the musical song Pop goes the weasel.
Samantha Mac 7:42
So musical dicks evolved because Okay, we've been doing this for
three years. So all the different versions of partner bootcamp have
evolved because we've seen either problems or areas where we can
get better and we've changed it. So musical dicks started. Because
a lot of guys were coming to partner bootcamp just because they
wanted to get their dinkytown Not because they want to be
performers. And so by putting a bunch of naked men in the room side
by side, you we know who wants to perform and who's actually trying
hard versus who just wants to drink touched. So that's where
musical dicks came from. It was just me like, I don't want to be
naked in a room with another guy. And we're like, well, then get
out, get
Yvette d'Entremont 8:18
out. Because
Samantha Mac 8:19
there are gonna be men in the room. When you get to a porn set.
There's a boom mic and a camera person, a director and somebody
running around making sure there's enough lube for everyone and you
know, you're probably at somebody else's location. So the owners
usually there or there's a manager like it's there's a lot of
people behind the scenes somebody holding up a reflector to make
sure the light is right on the table. You really got to get in
there. Oh, yeah. And if we're shooting multiple scenes a day, the
other talents usually sitting in the background watching, like
silently cheering you on. So there can be 10 people behind the
scenes for a three person scene. So that's why we created musical
decks. You have to be comfortable in a room with other people, both
men and women. There's no room for homophobia whatsoever. So the
guys lined up, and you usually have more guys than girls. That's
the trick. And girl picks a partner. And for one minute you do
whatever you can to your partner to get them to ejaculate. And
their job is to wait until they hear the buzzer to ejaculate. So
no
Unknown Speaker 9:14
matter what you do, no matter how in the men have consented to
this, of course, yes.
Samantha Mac 9:18
Oh, yeah, we have a 90 minute consent talk beforehand. We fill out
a code of conduct form. We have huge interviews that you see
beforehand,
Yvette d'Entremont 9:26
do they have things they can sign off that are off limits for them?
Yes,
Samantha Mac 9:29
everybody. Okay, everybody goes through a giant consent talk. So
that's not in the vice documentary because it's boring. Yeah. But
it's very important
Yvette d'Entremont 9:36
things. It's good for our audience to know that Yeah, consent
Samantha Mac 9:38
and Code of Conduct are the two main things like the bulk of our
time is talking about, like what you're okay with, and we always
ask, Does your wife or girlfriend know you're here?
Yvette d'Entremont 9:48
Get the fuck out? I wouldn't even have thought to ask that. But it
makes total sense. Yeah, you're trying to keep an ethical group
there, which is have you ever had a wife or girlfriend show up
screaming?
Samantha Mac 9:58
Not Through porno boot camp in previous years, like going back 10
years, I would have wives or girlfriends or boyfriends or husbands
call me and be like, I want that video taken down. I don't want my
boyfriend to have done this. And I'm like, Whoa, like he didn't
even tell me like he applied, or he paid for the position or, like,
that's why we bring it up right away. And I was like, if you have
any secrets, if it is important for you to have no one know that
you had your bits touched by me or anyone in my production, then
you should not be here because the internet will tell them. Yeah,
so we're very upfront.
Alice Vaughn 10:33
Oh, the internet has no secrets.
Yvette d'Entremont 10:34
No, your junk is forever. Yeah, I did a tiny little bit of latex
modeling and the pictures were online and years later, I went into
writing about science for a living and people who didn't like one
of my articles, but lasted those pictures and eventually I was just
like, fuck it. I looked great. Yeah, but like people attach a
meeting and what they want onto that and you're forevermore that
person who had their dick out
Alice Vaughn 10:57
8 million people have seen me Come on a motor bunny. So Proud of
you, including my dad.
Yvette d'Entremont 11:02
Hey, that was a great orgasm and they enjoyed it and so did you. My
parents were so not proud of me, but
Samantha Mac 11:09
it's okay. Oh my God, my parents are my biggest fan. Is that weird?
I don't wish my parents like help me decorate the studio.
Yvette d'Entremont 11:15
Nice. Awesome. My mom knows I swear Fred people for a living and
she could not be prouder. Yes, you took what you were good at
naturally it worked it into a thing that you could make you
money.
Unknown Speaker 11:27
Yeah.
Yvette d'Entremont 11:29
It took that for my relatives in Nova Scotia to be okay with me
swearing. Oh, you're
Samantha Mac 11:34
from Nova Scotia.
Yvette d'Entremont 11:36
That's just a little bit of the accident day. Oh, it's so cute. I
can't tell if that's Minnesota or if that's like Nova Scotia. It
just has a little bit of the Abood are kind of the same. It's a
little bit of the aboot. But they're also friends. They have like
the word Acadian like they're almost genetically the same as the
occasions slightly different accent but back to set that's not
about genealogy
Alice Vaughn 11:57
for hot second I have to ask So Sam You're in Canada. I was not
aware there was a Canadian hotspot for porn,
Samantha Mac 12:05
right? Well, a long, long time ago, on a day just like this, we
were a Canadian hotspot for porn. And some people didn't do
paperwork properly, and some things went sideways. And the industry
out here got shut down. And we're going back decades now. So
companies like browsers and Pornhub. And I believe I want clips are
Canadian companies that started in Canada, but now they all run out
of the states. And I'm finding that there's a lot of people up here
in Canada who want to be important, who thinks exciting, but we all
think it has to be in LA. And right now, it kind of does for the
most part, and I want to change that. I want companies to come
shoot here, we've shot with five or six different big name
companies up here. And it's been a lot of fun, and they're like,
hey, if you have a roster of talent, I'm going to come up, you're
more we're gonna shoot with you more. So that's where Barbie came
came from, was I was training people to get on this roster of
talent. So We could shoot up here in Vancouver more often. And it
was if you go to Mac models.ca you can see there's a link called as
seen on and you can see some of the amazing talent we've worked
with. We've worked so some some superstars and we're so so so
lucky. But I was like this could be a regular thing, if we have
what they need and what they need is a roster of capable talents.
So how did we get that point? Oh, boot camp.
Alice Vaughn 13:23
Love the segue. Nice, so much easier on my own. You mentioned it's
like a 12 step program so it's already sounds way better than a
first is admitting that you have a problem.
Samantha Mac 13:34
Yes. Versus admitting that you have a boner.
Alice Vaughn 13:37
Second is finding Jesus specifically Hey, Zeus,
Yvette d'Entremont 13:41
essentially is admitting that you are powerless to your boner.
Samantha Mac 13:44
That's some dominatrix stuff right there. seeking out
Alice Vaughn 13:47
a higher powers. Yeah, your boner seat so that you were just
someone's higher power. Your boner. Jesus. That's my business card.
There you go. Voter Jesus. There we go. You know the road. just
killed Jesus because they didn't want him competing with the wine
industry. That's all I'm saying.
Unknown Speaker 14:04
Oh,
Alice Vaughn 14:07
no, too dark. Sorry Christians. Oh,
Samantha Mac 14:09
he's not sorry.
Yvette d'Entremont 14:10
I'm really not know she makes crayons that are offensive. So not
sorry,
Alice Vaughn 14:16
Sam we're gonna get along. So
Unknown Speaker 14:19
I'm learning so much about you.
Yvette d'Entremont 14:21
When we're all in the same part of the universe hanging out will
occur.
Alice Vaughn 14:25
So by the way, do you only train men talent or males and females,
so I
Samantha Mac 14:29
trained men and women and vice actually filmed a female session. It
just hasn't come out yet. you've only seen the men's level two you
haven't seen at all. We've just slightly lifted the veil. So
excited. Yeah, I work with women a lot. And we also help them in
like open their own websites and clips, sites and fan sites so that
they can profit off their own butts instead of being owned and
operated by somebody else
Yvette d'Entremont 14:54
to their vagina is an LLC. I like that.
Samantha Mac 14:57
But yeah, we do a whole class like our 13th class. Our final class
is about opening your own sites running yourself as a business or
what you need, what different colored backgrounds and font on your
website will evoke different feelings from people and what your
audience is more attracted to, and how to do search engine
optimization like all that. Wow. So we get down to like the nitty
gritty like how to do record keeping, or skip the
Yvette d'Entremont 15:22
porn classes and comment and get the SEO stuff like, Can I just
drop it you can come to
Samantha Mac 15:26
anything you want, you can come every day.
Yvette d'Entremont 15:29
Well, I try to come every day. But Could I just drop in for the
SEO? Yes,
Samantha Mac 15:34
weighing on by the Canada because of the vice documentary, we
realized that there's a lot of people from a lot of different areas
that are either really interested or maybe kind of interested. So
we want to make it more inclusive. So that's why we broke it down
to 13 different classes and people can sign up for just one all 13
It doesn't matter out of those classes or kind of handpicking who
we want to work with more to get on our roster to do work. So if a
couple wants to just come For one class and just laugh at each
other while we're talking about dildos, that's okay. If they want
to perform and go further, we can discuss that. But it's not. You
don't take more bootcamp because you want to be a porn star. You
take part in boot camp because maybe you just want to talk about
stretching your asshole for a day,
Yvette d'Entremont 16:15
which I'm just saying, I'm getting their movie. I'm picturing this
ending up on the app masterclass. Yeah, actually, oh my god. I hope
so. I want a TED talk as well. A picture this ending is going to be
like, you know, here's Neil Gaiman on writing. here's here's Gordon
Ramsay teaches cooking here. Samantha Mack on maintaining a boner
with a guy next to you. I think people need to see all these
things.
Alice Vaughn 16:38
Yeah. Do we request master classes? Can our entire audience just
email the master class people? Yeah,
Samantha Mac 16:44
yes. That's how you do it.
Yvette d'Entremont 16:46
I download master class. If I had this on there, I need to see
this. This is amazing.
Alice Vaughn 16:51
I love hearing though that you have specific classes for men
specific classes for women and it kind of wraps up in a nice
industry oriented way on how to promote us
Yvette d'Entremont 17:00
Yeah cuz it's a harder industry to to maintain your finances and
then I use a different industry now than it used to be
installed
Samantha Mac 17:06
on that a little bit. Well the industry has changed thanks to free
sharing sites the way that we make money is different we're not
just selling holes doing things anymore we're selling intimacy and
interaction. Fans are now following one specific performer who they
feel is attractive or arousing or has that thing that they like and
they follow everything that person does you can go on Twitter and
you can talk to brock obama tomorrow if you really really want to.
So not that he's a porn performers just the first thing that came
to my mind
Alice Vaughn 17:33
but if you want it to be of no such
Samantha Mac 17:36
powerful black man comes to mind.
Alice Vaughn 17:39
I would so watch Brock porn
Yvette d'Entremont 17:41
if there was a brock obama look alike who's doing porn? I would
tune into that hard light bulb.
Alice Vaughn 17:48
Oh, yeah. Michelle Obama's arms. Yes. Oh, yeah.
Yvette d'Entremont 17:52
If there are doppelgangers, right, because I'm just saying I don't
think a sex tape of them is coming out. They seem to have their
shit together. But if their doppelgangers were to Do porn
Samantha Mac 18:00
I would tune in. I have no words and only moans for that. Ah.
Unknown Speaker 18:07
So good.
Samantha Mac 18:08
But yeah, we're selling intimacy interaction because the internet
chain social media changed. And so now, people will follow me
because they liked me and they'll follow anything I do. They're not
just following one company. You're not just finding your porn on
browsers anymore. And now you're going all over the place. And
what's fun about girls and while men used to be just girls who
like, if a girl had a website, you would follow her, but now it's
men. It's women. It's couples. It's transgender. It's everything.
If you have a niche, it is on the internet. If you get off on
sucking the farts of somebody's asshole, you can find that on the
internet and you will find a whole group of
Yvette d'Entremont 18:43
people who like it, there's someone making fart sucking
specifically from a step sibling. Like there's every single
category of porn in step family for this is 2019 it's all step
family
Samantha Mac 18:55
step family is one of the things I don't touch on. I did two step
family videos and I was like You know what, I don't want to
encourage this behavior and someone's realized fan mail that was
pretty disturbing. And I was like, I will not do tabular incest
videos of any kind anymore. It just does not sit well with me.
You're the unsung hero.
Yvette d'Entremont 19:13
You don't real MVP.
Samantha Mac 19:15
Thank you. I also don't like doing cheating wife.
Alice Vaughn 19:17
Cheating wife. Yes. stepbrother. stepsister pass.
Samantha Mac 19:21
Yeah. Well, I also like my mom dad are still married, so I can't
really relate to finding a stepmom attractive I don't have one. So
if you want to be my stepmom and change my mind, you can call me at
one 800
Alice Vaughn 19:32
Well, I mean in porn universe, who knows? Maybe I will be your
stepmom.
Unknown Speaker 19:37
You're younger than me.
Yvette d'Entremont 19:39
Exactly. As far as anything can happen. The right extensions and
costumes on and who knows?
Alice Vaughn 19:47
We become Mills back after we're 29 right?
Yvette d'Entremont 19:50
I thought was 45 I'm 36 I'm a gilf at this point in the porn
universe. As I like to say I am past age preventative Botox. I I'm
old. I've accepted it. All right, I'm all right with it. I'm just
old.
Alice Vaughn 20:05
Sam, other than the marketing seems like you have classes on anal.
It seems like you have some classes pertaining to toys and
erections. Any other snippets of some other classes you could share
with us?
Samantha Mac 20:17
Yes, I have the list in front of me. Now, I don't necessarily teach
these classes some of these I bring in experts because I don't know
everything. Shocking, I know. So we start off really simple with a
class called do it yourself, which is about solo xX xX
performances. So it's just you and a camera, what do you do? And so
you'll see that in our advice, coverage of the girl session, or
girl sitting from the camera, they're from a VR camera, they go
Okay, go and the girls are like, Hi, my name is Samantha and I'm so
happy you're here. And I don't know what to say and they just lose
it. And it's very nerve racking being from a camera, I'm being told
to just go perform. So we have a class on that how to move in from
the camera and we do it For both men and women, and everything in
between, we cater to all colors of the rainbow, whatever your kink
or fetish is, we try to be as inclusive as possible. So our solar
performance class is just you in front of camera by yourself, how
do you keep their attention? And so that was really, really fun and
we laugh a lot. It's super embarrassing, and it is a journey. But
what I like about this is if you are on a boot camp, and you're
willing to be on the website, we show your beginning your middle
and your end so we show the progression and we try to lift you up
as somebody who has learned and become good instead of someone
who's like Oh, the cavemen 35 seconds they're useless by it's like
a boner montage.
Yvette d'Entremont 21:38
I'm picturing the rocky theme song in the background, like climbing
up the steps with like a proud Boehner and then like spring like
that could be the commercial for it. There's like to someone like
you know, up the stairs and at the end, just you know, there I need
my creative team. Oh my goodness. This is Alice and I we do silly
things for fun and for profit. So if you ever new thing give us a
call.
Alice Vaughn 22:01
All I'm hearing is you need to include more. I have the tiger
montages. So,
Yvette d'Entremont 22:05
Tiger montage with Dick.
That's there has to be a rocky parody out there somewhere.
Alice Vaughn 22:13
Is there a rocky parody? I'm sure there is. And we'll review it
eventually. Okay, sorry. Anyways, classic. Let's
Samantha Mac 22:19
say we have classes on stills. One of the big things that you do on
a porn set is, you know, you show up, you go through your script,
you go through your staging, and they'll tell you, the director was
like, I want you and missionary then flip to doggy, then you're
gonna do this line, I want you to say this, I want you to do that.
And so we run through it. And then once you know which positions
you're going to be and you map it out on whichever furniture you're
using, we then take stills so the pictures that you see on the box
cover are not taken during the action. They are set up photos and
how to do that. And it gets even more difficult. So you put three
people in a room of like, Okay, give me a sec still. You have to
learn how to turn your body out how to face the camera but still
look like you're your partner how to stack your finger. And push
against the base of the clock so the deck looks as long as
possible. So you showing them a shaft as possible. Just grab it,
like cover it because he looks like he's got a tiny little Wiener
doesn't make anyone want to buy the video. So we teach you like all
these little techniques or
Unknown Speaker 23:14
little things that I've never thought about
Samantha Mac 23:17
Yeah, at how to like, you get partnered with somebody that you
might not know or maybe that you like, aren't really good friends
with and you have to make them look good enough to make you look
good. You know how to put your arms around a woman's waist without
giving her a muffin top. So we do a whole class with professional
photographers. Oh, I want that class. It's a good class for like
anybody who wants to be like next level Instagram like, here's how
to pose with people next level sex tape.
Yvette d'Entremont 23:41
Yes, I want my sex tape to get rid of my backfat
Samantha Mac 23:46
and like these positions that we teach you like if a girl lies on
her back and it hits her natural and they fall into her armpits,
how to like scooper and hold her in a way that her body is most
elegantly framed. During the sax. Yes, we care about you looking
good on camera. We don't care about Feels good. We don't care if
you have an orgasm unless you're the guy. We only care that you
look good. And we make a beautiful product.
Yvette d'Entremont 24:06
You're a legend. This is this is fascinating. I feel like if we
were like so Middle East piece and just handed it to you, you'd be
like, Well, someone said I was good at it, so I should do it.
Samantha Mac 24:19
Everything. I mean, that's my next challenge.
I mean, after for boot camp has been conquered. I'll have to be honest, making peace in the Middle East. I'm sure I can you
Yvette d'Entremont 24:28
know, Syria is a kind of a clusterfuck. But we can sort it out
between like six different arguing camps. We can do this.
Alice Vaughn 24:35
I mean, Trump thought Kushner could do it. Samantha Mac better
Yvette d'Entremont 24:40
way better. Make your tits look good during missionary she can sort
out Syria tasks. I'm just saying if you have any women have tried.
Samantha Mac has mastered it. I think Syria is next. I'm going
Samantha Mac 24:55
to end up with like a weird phone call tomorrow from
Yvette d'Entremont 24:58
Fox hate mail. info to girls when Mike duck
Samantha Mac 25:02
house Mathematica single handedly solving
Yvette d'Entremont 25:07
they're gonna be like so do your support Trump's recent comments.
Oh god,
Samantha Mac 25:11
this is gonna be really really bad or really, really well for
me.
Yvette d'Entremont 25:14
We have gotten far less hate mail on ridiculous things we've said
that have touched on politics that I would have expected I think
because our audience understands that their jokes how Samantha Mac
redrew the Israeli Palestinian border. What it's actually supposed
to look like. This is a giant. You're welcome. Next, they have
Samantha Mack is actually added by something like that'll be like
the next accusation just because like the word Palestine was said
that'll be the accusation. Oh my goodness. Don't worry. I can
handle anything. It's fine. Hashtag Samantha Matt canceled. We were
canceled for having this podcasts. Everything is canceled to I'm
canceled. Cancel us now.
Samantha Mac 25:54
Don't do it.
Yvette d'Entremont 25:55
Alice is already determined she's gonna be cancelled for offensive
crayons. I've decided. I'm going to cancelled for all the stuff I
ever wrote about agriculture.
Alice Vaughn 26:03
Well, so within a span of a week I went viral and was banned off of
Facebook. So why did you go viral? I went viral because of this
little contraption. I am holding a fidget spinner bud plug.
Yvette d'Entremont 26:17
I have a theory that that could help someone keep their erection
for longer because it would distract them but they'd still be in a
vagina.
Alice Vaughn 26:24
I have a theory that this is a great toy during orgies. And if you
don't have anything to do play with the fidget spinner, but
Yvette d'Entremont 26:32
if you have an uneven number of men who have holes available, just
you know, plug that in there for a little while. How about just
Samantha Mac 26:38
Okay, so wait, why did that make you go viral? I don't
Alice Vaughn 26:41
think many people have seen a fidget spinner bud plug and I think
that's what surprised me more. This little guy and I'll again link
it in the show notes only cost me 25 bucks. I decided to post it on
both Facebook and Instagram on our Facebook. It got I think 18,000
shares and
Yvette d'Entremont 26:59
yeah, that's it. Sokka some shares but I must have not clicked for
the page for like a day.
Alice Vaughn 27:04
And then on my Twitter I think I got like 17,000 shares, which I
would say is a decent number nowadays.
Yvette d'Entremont 27:11
Yeah, that's not bad for a shiny butt plug.
Alice Vaughn 27:15
But I'm more furious about why Facebook decided to ban me for a
week. I had nothing to do with about blog. Nothing, nothing to
do.
Yvette d'Entremont 27:22
Okay, I just posted a link right?
Alice Vaughn 27:25
So what I did was so vise put out an article about a photographer
who photographs couples who are simulating blow jobs for their
wedding photos
Yvette d'Entremont 27:35
wedding photo blowjobs Was it a hoax
Alice Vaughn 27:38
or was it well all the couples say that they're not actual blowjobs
but you could see like the pants are off on the guy. Yeah, it's
just so
Yvette d'Entremont 27:46
it's you know, in position of doing apologia Haha, very funny, but
exactly posted
Alice Vaughn 27:52
the link, didn't you? That's all I did. All I did was just post the
link on our Facebook page on the To on podcast page, and within a
day I'm gone I'm canceled on Facebook
Yvette d'Entremont 28:05
you're banned for posting an article that like
Alice Vaughn 28:08
about fake blowjobs
Yvette d'Entremont 28:10
vise face nothing for that everyone else who posted this face
nothing What the hell are you just In Facebook Jail Are you banned
Facebook Jail
Alice Vaughn 28:19
Facebook Jail for seven days but Facebook Jail is the worst because
if you haven't been in it before you can even message your
friends
Samantha Mac 28:26
that you can see your messages though.
Alice Vaughn 28:28
Yeah, it's the worst torture so and if you don't have someone's
number, you can contact them for however long whether it's 24 hours
a week or 30 days and I've had a 30 day ban too.
Yvette d'Entremont 28:37
We are far too dependent on Facebook Like I saw a video a few days
ago saying there's an argument for shutting down the entire
internet I'm like no, no, no. Just shut down Facebook for like a
week and see how people adapt to life about Facebook and I I say
this thinking that tomorrow my Facebook overlords will shut down
sigh babe and be like, Oh, you likes those 300,000 followers,
didn't you? By, I think that the company has a little too much
power now just because we got dependent on it. We liked the service
they had. But now, what would happen if it just went away? I think
would be all right. Eventually,
Samantha Mac 29:13
I'm kind of on this boat. I think if Facebook went away, we would
actually connect with each other again, we would go to the scammers
and contact each other. I went In Facebook Jail, right before a
Mexico trip and all of my information was in those messages. So I
didn't know who to like meet on the other side in Mexico, I was at
the airport and I got shut down. So I had to open a second account
and try to recontact all these people again. So now I bounced
between two accounts so I can afford to be in jail on what
Yvette d'Entremont 29:41
yeah, it's just annoying, you know,
Samantha Mac 29:43
and I have my mom is like a moderator on all of my pages. In case I
get shut down. My mom can still go in the back end and posts for
me.
Yvette d'Entremont 29:51
Yeah, it's having a handful of people who you know, no matter what,
someone won't be banned at any given time. And none of these people
will ever go nuclear on me. Some important thing,
Samantha Mac 30:01
we run an event here in Vancouver called SimCity. It's a fetish
club. And we do tons of crazy events. I mean, like whatever you
think is happening, like time's up by 10
Unknown Speaker 30:10
Patreon content. There's 36
Samantha Mac 30:13
different moderators on that account just because of the likelihood
of us getting shut down for a poster we made or for having Oh,
yeah, the wrong word in our poster image or linking directly if
you're moving a link, but you just have the text up, you're less
likely to get put in Facebook Jail. Wow, it's when the direct link
bubble pops up and click that it could click to anything that could
get you in trouble. Pro tip.
Yvette d'Entremont 30:36
I still don't know how I've never landed In Facebook Jail. Like I
know saying this means tomorrow I'll enter Facebook Jail, just the
energies out there. It's gonna happen but like, I feel like I've
just kept one foot on the don't put me in jail side of the line.
I've just managed to skate by it, but it feels like I should have
by now.
Samantha Mac 30:53
Well, you're very lucky. I'm very experienced In Facebook Jail
unfortunately. at Instagram jail Thema
Yvette d'Entremont 30:59
People I've said should fuck off and that we should have a
guillotine for the rich at this point somebody should have thrown
me in the face no
Samantha Mac 31:06
violence, okay? You can yell at somebody violence is okay, but if
you have boobs, yeah, okay shut down in a heartbeat I was
completely removed for wearing a dress on a red carpet so that they
thought was inappropriate.
Unknown Speaker 31:17
Stop
Samantha Mac 31:18
Yeah, no sexual content and it was me in a custom made gown on a
red carpet.
Alice Vaughn 31:23
Okay, I need to see this gown first off because you probably looked
hot in it. Yeah.
Samantha Mac 31:27
Now it was custom made. It wasn't necessary. Now. We
Yvette d'Entremont 31:31
should have that picture for like the featured image for the
show.
Samantha Mac 31:34
I bet you I can find this. I just I can't
Yvette d'Entremont 31:36
believe that. I mean, I can because fuck everything. But I was
exaggerating a little bit talking about the guillotine. Just a
little
Samantha Mac 31:43
My husband has the same picture posted because it's a red carpet
image. And his is still up but my god has banned
Alice Vaughn 31:49
what Yeah, you're too voluptuous for Facebook to handle? Yes. Oh,
you look absurdly good.
Unknown Speaker 31:57
Oh wow.
Alice Vaughn 31:58
I've seen that image but For I love it. It's on images as well. I'm
linking to this in the show notes. That custom dress is
perfect.
Yvette d'Entremont 32:08
So I'm just saying I've seen Beyonce in a thing that covers a
similar amount. I'm curious why that was all right. And yet, and
yet so that covers more than a bikini but because it was a dress it
was too sexual.
Unknown Speaker 32:22
Yeah, fun times with boobs.
Alice Vaughn 32:26
bikini versus lingerie. I mean, both lead to sex ones, just
coarser, but it
Samantha Mac 32:32
also is like if you have more followers, they're more likely to be
strict on you. If you ask followers, they're less
Yvette d'Entremont 32:38
likely more followers means there's gonna be like the sensitivity
level you're you have a bigger net eventually. It also means you're
going to be more people that are gonna be like, I just don't like
this click report. Yeah, it depends on the following. When my page
started, I realized like early on, like I forget where the
following was, but like I went from like 30,000 to about 100,000
overnight. From an article going viral, and the whole tone of the
page changed, like people, I had to get used to people being like,
I don't like this unfollow, and like, luckily, it wasn't a lot of
reporting, but the bigger the audience is, the more people are
gonna be like, I fucking hate your report for nothing. Mm hmm. Why
with boobs though? Why would people be anti boobs? And if you guys
can see this guy, so this is a skeleton sitting in a chair holding
a dildo with a bottle of lube next to him.
Samantha Mac 33:28
And that was to advertise like our Halloween film sets and mine got
removed immediately. But that's on my husband's Instagram. It's I
experiment happy with it. They think it's funny. What the hell is a
dude posting a dick is okay, but a girl No, no,
Alice Vaughn 33:43
a skeleton with a dildo and lube. Oh my god, how dare it.
Yvette d'Entremont 33:48
I hate everything. Instagram What the fuck is my third account now?
And they're not the first person we've had on that's told us this.
We've had a few people tell us their Instagram accounts are there
friend's Instagram accounts have been shut down.
Samantha Mac 34:02
Yes. So luckily there's an organization in LA of adult performers.
They actually spoke to the heads of Instagram and was like, hey,
people are being banned for the wrong reasons. And a lot of BB w
women are getting banned because the amount of skin percentage that
they're showing, even though they could be completely covered in
the important areas wearing a sports bra and like yoga pants, the
amount of skin showing is more than a thin girl. Therefore she gets
brought down for being showing too much skin
Yvette d'Entremont 34:29
that's not okay and it
Samantha Mac 34:32
comes down to not sexual being sexual or sexually explicit. It
comes down to just body shaming. She has more square inches of skin
than the other girl therefore it's not okay.
Yvette d'Entremont 34:42
And that sucks. What the hell for my highest weight I've lost about
95 pounds and I look isolations you know what I it's weird
accepting congratulations on just you know, being smaller. It's
like I'm healthier I guess but you know, same human being just
different eating habits but like I look at it and go, people treat
you differently. It's weird that some clothes are acceptable now
that weren't then and I don't think that's okay. I don't think it's
okay to treat people like, we treat fat women terribly in the
society and like I grew up fat and people treat me differently now
like I'm a better nicer human being who's more worthy of love. And
that's not cool. Oh, it's it's
Samantha Mac 35:23
totally true that what you experience is 100% real
Yvette d'Entremont 35:26
people treat conventionally attractive, skinny women differently.
And I'd since I moved to San Francisco for two years, moved back to
LA and since I've gotten back, I've been thinner. I've been treated
differently. It's very strange. But yeah, that's just seeing it
manifested in how people are treating your body. On Instagram. It's
like, it's just it's disgusting.
Alice Vaughn 35:47
Well, here's a question how much of it is part of the algorithm and
how much of it is a person reviewing it because there are people
who are content moderators who are reviewing the content and
censoring this which is a problem problem, but I'm sure there could
probably be algorithms who are figuring this out. But as I say that
I'm glad it still doesn't make any sense compared to if like a
skinny bitches wearing a fucking bikini. It doesn't make any
sense.
Yvette d'Entremont 36:13
There shouldn't be a problem for wearing a bikini at any size.
Alice Vaughn 36:16
By the way, if you're a skinny bitch, I hate you. It's just because
I can't be a size two. I enjoy pizza a lot.
Samantha Mac 36:21
One thing I did is in my in my 10 years of being naked on the
internet, I have been both 140 pounds and 240 pounds. And I have
made I wouldn't say the equivalent amount of money but the size
doesn't matter. Your fan base just changes interesting people like
all sorts of sizes. I never lost fans because I was heavier or lost
fans because I was thinner. The audience just changed. And both
have been exceptionally profitable. Yeah, people like a little bit
of everything. It's just who you're advertising to, which is why is
it is always a place for everybody. Exactly. So there's that guy
out there who just wants to suck your farts. He doesn't care how
big grass is. But it's is your your level of comfort with your body
is what's going to be the positive reaction other people, if you're
upset about being heavy, then they're going to be like, yeah,
you're heavy. That's bad. But if you're like, Yeah, I got a big
bottom you like this? And they're like, yeah, like that. You really
start the conversation. So people are treating you differently.
Maybe because you're treating yourself differently.
Alice Vaughn 37:17
This is a very good point. Unfortunately, as women, we're kind of
shamed at a young age when it comes to our body. And I feel like a
lot of men don't necessarily experience it the same way. I mean,
yes, don't get me wrong. There are advertisements were constantly
you'll see like an attractive or muscular guy, but not never. I
feel like growing up to the same extent, as you've always seen the
same type of woman on all the different types of advertisements and
if you just have a little extra men in most advertisements aren't
really told to lose weight. However, for women, it's a problem.
Samantha Mac 37:53
You know, what's funny about that is that's where the internet
changed. It comes to porn, because of clip sites and fan sites and
cash sights. We have now opened up the idea of the perfect woman
from being the thin size to big fake boobs. blond hair. Blue Eyes
doesn't have a thought in her brain. What wants to suck your dick?
Oh, yeah, that was what was higher. You're welcome. That's why now
it can be a tattooed girl a girl with a big fat.
Yvette d'Entremont 38:20
have at least one thought in your brain, Alice.
Unknown Speaker 38:22
Oh, it's true. I thought it was
Alice Vaughn 38:26
Yeah, I'm sure as I'm going down on the guy. He's like, I love you
for your brain. Alright, sorry, Sam.
Yvette d'Entremont 38:32
So going back loves it for how fast it's ranting against his cock.
That's what he loves about it at that moment.
Samantha Mac 38:38
He should just stop halfway and ask him.
Yvette d'Entremont 38:40
Do you love me for my brain honey? Yeah, sure, just get back to
slogging that thing against your tonsil holes. Okay, please. I just
want it good and sloppy. Just get in there. Don't forget the balls.
I
Alice Vaughn 38:51
don't care about your brain right now as long as your brain is
functioning in a way that tells it how to blow a thing. So Sam, do
you think that the body positivity moves Could have even just
stemmed from more clips sites coming onto the scene and because we
all know that porn when it comes to change whether it comes to a
lot of technological advances I mean porn kind of does it first you
know whether it's VHS DVD is when it comes to doing webcams. Hell
cryptocurrency, VR, you know porn always at the front of
everything. Do you think the body positivity movement kind of
started with porn?
Samantha Mac 39:28
Oh, you know what, I would not be surprised in the least I think
that that's a very real scenario. We saw a huge influx in tattooed
girls when suicide girls became a thing Wow. When all of a sudden
that was something that was lusted after and was made for your
spank made material burning Angel made punk porn, a thing tattooed
girls, pink hairs shaved head we just had Joanna Angel on and she
was wonderful. Joanna angel is one of the first big name people
I've ever worked with. She's Super fun. But I think she had a lot
to do with changing the porn cultures mind of what sexy is. And I
think that that opened the door for a lot. A lot more variety of
women you know you if you can be a pumpkin you can be sexy, you can
be a nerd and you can be sexy. You can be a cupcake chef and be
sexy like this not just one idea anymore. And people like Joanna
Angel were the forefront of that.
Yvette d'Entremont 40:24
I require my cupcake chefs to be sexy,
Samantha Mac 40:27
as you should.
Yvette d'Entremont 40:29
Just just saying, but I think if you're making me a cupcake, you're
automatically sexy. So
Alice Vaughn 40:33
So speaking of cupcakes, I have a business idea. And if you're a
listener of this podcast, you're not allowed. You're contractually
obligated to never steal this business idea because you're
listening to this podcast and I'm telling you, so
Yvette d'Entremont 40:48
it's already trademarked it there's a website like she's partnered
with Monsanto auto or something. Who knows?
Alice Vaughn 40:53
Okay, so the idea is, it's a bakery and it's a strip club. It's
called Shake and Bake.
Yvette d'Entremont 41:01
Oh, no. Oh yes, we're doing this. And and wait, it's a dispensary
to shake and bake. Oh, come on, come on. Now this is a good
idea.
Alice Vaughn 41:14
Look, all I'm saying is, if you're already going to call a girl
cupcake, why not bring you a cupcake?
Samantha Mac 41:19
We actually fired a girl to a strip club for smashing a cupcake
during a strip show. Because it was a chocolate cupcake and it
looked like poop smeared down her tits. And it left any oil based
product is not your friend at the strip club. And I mean like a
slick
Yvette d'Entremont 41:36
Yeah, so you're saying vanilla with like marang frosting would have
been acceptable. It's just
Samantha Mac 41:41
not poo colors and preferably not oil based products. We want you
to swing around the pole. We don't use something off of it.
Yvette d'Entremont 41:50
So if you're listening and you dance, please no chocolate
cupcakes,
Samantha Mac 41:54
at least not myclub that'll get you in trouble.
Yvette d'Entremont 41:57
Stick to the normal foods for that are used for dancing like
sardines, obviously.
Alice Vaughn 42:03
Pineapple on pizza. Yes. No.
Unknown Speaker 42:06
Yes. doesn't belong
Yvette d'Entremont 42:08
on pizza. Yes, yes. Thank you. I knew I liked you.
Samantha Mac 42:13
Don't you take my pineapple away.
Yvette d'Entremont 42:15
People who don't like pineapple on pizza are truly why the
terrorists are gonna win.
Samantha Mac 42:19
I believe I had sex in a burning Angel film because there was
pineapple on a pizza.
Yvette d'Entremont 42:25
There has to be a story of this and I needed
Samantha Mac 42:27
one of the first burning Angel videos I did for joining Angel was I
was a pizza delivery girl. And using the pizza delivery box like
the thermal case, from my father in law from when he was a delivery
boy so you know, there was some heirlooms in that video. But no, I
brought I brought an American Oh in gray leaves his name. I brought
him a Canadian pizza and had pineapple on it. And it had maybe in
badian bacon and he was like, This isn't bacon and we argued about
it. And I was like There's pineapple amount make your taste good.
He's like, well why would you want that? And I was like, Oh well,
welcome to Canada and I sucked his dick.
Unknown Speaker 43:07
Because porn logic
Yvette d'Entremont 43:08
that's how Canadian pizza delivery people treat you when you come
to Canada we give you a Canadian pizza and suck your dick. I'm just
saying that never happened to Nova Scotia and I feel robbed but
given that it was Politico and I'm related to everyone there maybe
that's why that's a policy in Politico that they don't do it.
Samantha Mac 43:26
Perhaps I didn't Vancouver, so maybe you need to come to Vancouver.
And then have me deliver your pizza. I want that delivery service.
You actually need to watch the pizza delivery burning Angel porno
video that I did because I tried to do a nova scotia accent the
whole time. Oh my god, I'm so excited. It comes out a little in
Minnesota. But wait,
Alice Vaughn 43:46
what is a nova scotia accent Nova Scotia
Yvette d'Entremont 43:48
but your a and a booton? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Don't you know
Samantha Mac 43:52
it's a lot of don't Shinola stone shadow. I just at that point. I
loved being a character in all my films like I love I love the
silly Have it and that's one of the reasons I like so much is
because they did really silly parodies
Yvette d'Entremont 44:04
these are the ports we like to review are the ones that get there's
an actual plot and we dig when people stay in character during the
fucking
Samantha Mac 44:12
show Anna got mad at me not to get mad at me because halfway
through she's like stop it cuz he was like fucking me and I was
like, oh gosh darn sorry.
Alice Vaughn 44:21
She's like stomping his mouth. I'm like, okay.
It's not Canadian porn unless you're saying sorry, constantly. Sorry, sorry.
Samantha Mac 44:32
Oh, gosh, I'm so sorry. Don't you know
Unknown Speaker 44:33
sorry. Or maple syrup?
Alice Vaughn 44:37
Give me the maple syrup, baby. Oh, yeah.
Samantha Mac 44:45
Yeah, I give you permission to criticize my Nova Scotia accent in
that entire porno. Sorry,
Yvette d'Entremont 44:50
it's probably better than then whatever I can do. We have this
thing for a while the horrid challenge and to listeners who have
heard this every time just click 30 seconds ahead. So you Don't
have to hear it again. So from watching Tommy pistol doing the bar
at parody horror at and he stayed in character the whole time. I
just want someone to like in that moment when they are their
partners about to come to call out very nice and see if they can
hold their erection so that was why we loved the vice documentary
right here so much I'm like, Oh my god, this is like the horror at
challenge over and over again, to see if people can keep erection
during you know, extreme conditions.
Alice Vaughn 45:27
So now I remember there was something you mentioned in the
documentary said there was a difference between VR and POV
recording.
Samantha Mac 45:34
Yeah, what's the difference? So virtual reality is a specific type
of camera that we use to shoot VR, whether we're shooting 180 or
360. It's stationary camera, whereas POV the camera can sometimes
move with you. If you're doing like a vor fetish. For example, you
might talk directly to the cameras if it's the tiny little man
trying to escape you. And then you can pick up the camera and show
it the inside of your mouth and threaten that you're gonna swallow
him or whatever for It's a fun fetish.
Alice Vaughn 46:01
Would you like to describe it for our audience? Yeah,
Yvette d'Entremont 46:03
give them a quick rundown. bore is
Samantha Mac 46:06
a fetish we often encourage beginners to use because it's very, I
wouldn't say non sexual, but it's like a foot fetish. It's less
sexual than others. So with more it's about eating and swallowing.
And a lot of times it mixes with giant tests where the viewer is
shrunken down to a small size. And you are the giant s, and you put
them in a sandwich and you eat them, or the video I'm doing right
now is a fellow who's trying to hide behind a grape. And I realized
I dropped the grape on the ground and I go to pick it up and about
to eat it. And it the sexual tension for the viewer comes from that
point where he sees my mouth open my teeth, my uvlo hanging down
the spit in my throat, and he knows that that's his final moment.
And that's where they get on board. Sometimes they want you to
slowly eat them from their toes to their head and describe what
their body is feeling. Sometimes they do it as a way of nourishing
the gut. As body they're making the ultimate sacrifice for the
goddess that they appreciate and love so much. But yeah vor is
about eating and chewing up a lot of your throat and swallowing and
every time you eat on camera you're supposed to do with your lips
open, so they can watch your teeth Nasher out. It's it's not sexual
for everyone, but for those who like it, they pay well for it.
Yvette d'Entremont 47:21
So it's a fairly unsexual eyes thing that people are really into
I
Samantha Mac 47:26
who it's more of like a psychological fetish than it is
Yvette d'Entremont 47:30
physical or emotional. I'm fascinated and I don't want to kink
shame I just I'm this is something that like, I think it's a thing
where if you're not into it, you just do not get it at all. And you
know what, as I was taught very early on in my kink life, your kink
is okay. Don't judge other people's kinks, because other people
would look at yours and go Hmm,
Samantha Mac 47:50
so a lot of people who are starting out with their own fan sites,
we'll get custom video requests from people who have these very
usual fetishes, not that they're unusual a bad way but that they're
the less popular and when you're new on the internet people come to
you Oh, wiggle your toes for me. Okay now wiggle your toes but pour
lotion on them. Okay now whether your toes and smash a banana into
the ball of your foot like they will send you these little customs
that you think are nothing so you'll do them for a low amount of
money. Because you don't understand their that's their sexual for
them. It seems non sexual to you because oh, it's just my feet, it
doesn't matter or Oh, I'm just pretending to eat a crepe. It
doesn't matter. But what we don't realize what we've learned
through this evolutionary process is that these kinks are very
important to people who have these fetishes. And so if you become a
master at if you can understand the fetish and film it in a way
that's very enticing, you can become the best for fetishist or
giant has fetishes or femme Dom or whatever it is that you're into,
or perhaps that you're good at portraying on camera. I do a lot of
fetishes that I'm not personally into, but I will perform them
exquisitely on camera because I like being an actress.
Alice Vaughn 49:00
I feel like people definitely undervalue porn stars as actual
actors. And that's the thing you guys act so often and frequently,
especially as you just described, you do fetishes, and you do them
in such a way where for the viewer, if they're watching, and
they're like, that's exactly my kink, but you might not either be
into it or you just know how to perform it really well. You might
be the best vor or giantess fetishist out there.
Samantha Mac 49:27
Yes. And that's the goal is to be the best at whatever you want to
do. We do one of our bootcamp classes is about specifically that,
wow, we show a side by side image of a sexy nurse and a porno and
then a nurse actually in the ER, and we're like there is a
difference between reality and fantasy. And there is a difference
between showing a kink and then showing a kink for the viewer.
Yvette d'Entremont 49:49
Do you show a picture of Nina Hartley when she was actually working
as a nurse versus Nina Hartley in a nurse costume because I think
that would be perfect. I did not know Nina Hartley was a nurse. She
was I don't know Still an RN, she might like we had her on the show
and we talked about that. But yeah, indeed, kind of what got her
into porn, she said was she was working as an RN and she connected,
giving birth to sexuality and it's a whole long rant. She was on
the show and it was wonderful. But yeah, she started off her career
as a nurse. She's I mean, we knew she was brilliant, but Episode 30
we had her on really early and she put up with 40 minutes of our
audio issues trying to get her connected. And she was so lovely.
And so what she talked about was so brilliant. She
Samantha Mac 50:28
is like the nicest person she's fantastic. So by the
Alice Vaughn 50:31
way, I figured out what nurse porn is yes, so all of you nurses out
there can absolutely attest to this and you can you know, correct
me if I'm wrong info two girls, so I might calm you know, they
email. Okay, you guys, you're into veins. Okay, finding a fucking
vein for to put a needle into so muscular arms with veins in them.
That's nurse porn. phlebotomy tell me I'm wrong.
Yvette d'Entremont 50:56
I know someone who used to do I need to figure out a way to praise
a set enemas she was into enemas and wearing a nurse costume. That
was one that I remember early on in my kink education. And I was
like, Ooh, that one's a fetish too far. But I'm fascinated and I
want to know more.
Samantha Mac 51:11
I love enemas.
Yvette d'Entremont 51:12
I find the baby, how should we phrase this useful before another
activity? Yes, that's kind of how
Samantha Mac 51:19
you get into it.
It starts off as necessity and then it becomes awesome.
Yvette d'Entremont 51:24
One day, we're gonna make a complete washer junk kit, and it's
gonna have an enema bulb in there, and people are gonna be like,
What? Oh,
Samantha Mac 51:30
yes, that's another course we that's in the angel class that we do.
We have this lovely gay fellow come in, and he talks all about how
to do an enema, the different types that you can get. And when
you've gone too far, and you've used too much liquid and how long
it could delay your process of getting ready. I need to know how do
you
Yvette d'Entremont 51:47
know when you've gone too far?
Samantha Mac 51:48
Well, there's a suggested amount listed in the instructions. And
when you go beyond that, there's a bend in your innards. And once
you go over that bend, gravity doesn't help you anymore. Go ahead
You filled yourself up with so much liquids and now you're you're
draining out beyond the level that's necessary and it could take a
much longer time to get you cleaned out because you've gone into
deep cleaning mode and it wasn't necessary.
Unknown Speaker 52:13
So one bulb at a time, one
Samantha Mac 52:14
bulb at a time, that's what I like to do.
Yvette d'Entremont 52:18
Didn't know if there was a max number of bulbs. successively, I
think it's the word I'm using. There
Samantha Mac 52:23
was also a difference between like, you could fill up like we have
the bottles and you could fill up with one bottle, flush it out,
fill up a bottle, again, make sure it's clean until it comes out
clear. Or you could put a bottle in hold it but a second bottle in
that's when you get into a little bit dangerous territory. But it's
also good for deep cleaning. So you mean each each their own happy
assholes to everyone? Yes, we want to clean working surface. And
that's something that we're touching on. We're doing a point of
bootcamp orientation this Friday and next Saturday, where anyone
who's curious is welcome to come down and have a q&a with us.
We've got videos, we've got some funny entertainers coming in to
talk about all these things, answering questions. One of the things
we talked about is how to be prepared for set. Do you need to clean
out your asshole before you come to every single set? Not
necessarily. Like what's important to do and like the amount of man
I've had to send back and women be like, Oh, you need to go wash
your bits before you pull those out. washers drunk. There's people
who don't know why we have baby wipes on set. They think it's
hilarious. Somebody in the YouTube comments on the vice documentary
was like, Oh, this guy's using a penis pump next to a bunch of baby
wipes. That's gross. He must be a dad and I was like, No, we use
baby wipes to wipe our folds and our ins and our outs because our
genitals Yeah, I worry about the people having sex who don't know
how to use a wipe on their bits. Why do people not
Yvette d'Entremont 53:40
know to just wash your junk? This is vital and necessary before you
mash bits with someone else just out of courtesy but
Samantha Mac 53:48
there's a lot of shelters out there even into their 20s and 30s.
I've come across a lot of dicks now doing Cornell boot camp, and in
a lot of vaginas, but the most memorable and I've met three men
Whose foreskin will not retract at all. And when it does, you just
see the very, very tip of their dick. And if you touch it, they go
into convulsions because the head of their caucus so sensitive, and
why two of them were raised very religious and were told never to
masturbate. So as a 25 and 30 year old man, they could not pull
down their foreskin, even when flaccid and they were constantly
getting infections and they just thought that's just how it works
because they never had that open conversation with an adult or a
parent supporter. And so it's me going well, dude, your dick needs
some work is what got them going to a doctor and having the balls
to have that conversation is incredible. Okay, so if you're
religiously oppressed, as you're dank please start please. She's a
dick exorcise
Yvette d'Entremont 54:43
addicts or cyst. I have a lot of business cards. We're racking them
up for you depending on who you're talking to different business
card.
Samantha Mac 54:50
Someone online made me some that said I'm the dildo wielder because
there's a part in the documentary where I'm shaking a double ended
dildo, which is a joke about dick Celcius. video we did a long time
ago his stepdad comes in, he picks up the Double of the dildo. He
goes, What is this and it's wiggling back and forth. It's the
funniest thing I've ever shot. However, like I said before that
stepdad we don't do anymore because it had other fans that I don't
want to judge, but that one moment where he's What is this and the
dildos shaking back and forth. It's the funniest thing I've ever
done. If you've never shaken a double ended dildo, do yourself a
favor, go to the next door, I will get a double and make it around
like a mad fury and you will feel so much better like that should
be an every therapists office, you can't not laugh. It's just the
funniest thing.
Yvette d'Entremont 55:35
It's funnier than a rubber chicken. I'm sorry, you cannot
Samantha Mac 55:38
stay angry,
Yvette d'Entremont 55:39
especially if it's a pink one with glitter on the inside of it.
That's a funny object. It's an intrinsically humorous article of
junk.
Samantha Mac 55:49
We've had one in our studio for three years now. It was bought for
one of Anneliese film sets long time ago, and it's just lingered.
It's always around somewhere. We try to get rid of it. We can't
just keep showing up. But if you're angry We tell people just shake
the deck because you cannot stay angry. Well, this double ended
those flapping around. It's so yeah, forget stress balls, get a
double ended dildo you'll be a happier person, you can thank me
later.
Alice Vaughn 56:13
In counseling sessions you have to hold the double ended dildo to
speak.
Yvette d'Entremont 56:17
That's the time I'm going to start buying those for friends that
are stressed out just going buying cheap double ended dildo and be
like, Here you go, just your you don't, this isn't gonna solve
anything. It's not gonna make your problems go away but you'll
laugh of it, you'll be
Samantha Mac 56:31
a lot happier with your problems.
Yvette d'Entremont 56:34
And if you cleared it off and has another years,
Unknown Speaker 56:37
even two
Samantha Mac 56:40
things those fellows have seen no buddy, no one can feel it seen
our double ended dildo in our studio, you know is the LG dildo
because it has this weird pink stain down the side which came from
a feather boa I swear it was packaged with a feather boa the color
from the feather bow leaked onto the eldo but every time we're
playing with it was like why is there pink stuff on it? I'm like,
it's never whatever you think it is. I swear to God is the dye from
a feather bowl.
Yvette d'Entremont 57:09
We kill the Horcrux of one of the previous porn stars that
stain
Samantha Mac 57:14
spray theory that's gonna be in like the board game one day like
the q&a about Samantha Mac when I'm finally famous enough have
a board game it'll be like, why is Samantha's double ended dildo
dyed
Unknown Speaker 57:22
pink because it was in Jenna Jamison. Oh, hey,
Samantha Mac 57:27
Jenna Jameson's actually, one of the reasons I do porn now.
Really?
Alice Vaughn 57:31
Yes. how that happened. What? What is your origin story
Samantha Mac 57:35
A long time ago. So I was 18 and I was given Jamison's how to make
love like a porn star book, oh, by the uncle of a kid that I
babysat for. Wow. There's a whole nother story. So I was given this
book and I started reading it because I was 18. And who doesn't
like things about porn when you're 18 and she talks about how in
the book she talked about falling down drunk and losing money
because she was so high High and all of those things and I had
chosen at a young age at age 14, I'd learned about being straight
edge ones and I decided that I want to be straight edge. So I got
this strange tattoo and I never drank or two drugs or smoked my
entire life and I not true. I did try cigarettes to try and be cool
and it clearly did not work. So I apologize for drinking.
Alice Vaughn 58:22
This entire you
Samantha Mac 58:23
can drink. I don't. Okay, I don't care if you drink. But yeah, so I
chose to like have this very straight, clean life and because of
Gemma Jameson's book, I was just like, wow, if she could do all of
that, because she just had the drive to do it. Like she pulled her
own braces off to get the job at the strip club. And she decided to
like push yourself and make yourself famous, cool. The only place
she failed was that she got drunk and high and fucked it all up.
And I was like, Well, I don't get drunk or high so I could do all
this and not fuck it up. Interesting. So that book was like my
motivating factor to like, do whatever I want become whoever I want
and Be as bold as I want, knowing that as long as I didn't drink or
do drugs that I could probably hold it together enough to be
successful at it. And I still have her book and like read it to
this day because it's a good book. It's hilarious. And it's full of
great stories. But I am very much blaming her book for making me
the confident, business minded girl that started off as a stripper
not knowing what she was doing, and literally faked it till I made
it. And now 10 years later, I'm teaching people how to play
Alice Vaughn 59:26
with their dicks. That's amazing. I love it out of curiosity, do
you do webinars, webinars? I don't but that
Samantha Mac 59:32
is on my to do list. That's one of the things we're talking about
right now. I hired I finally hired an assistant to help me
coordinate everything and one of the things she's pushing me
towards is webinars and ebooks, so that people don't have to
necessarily come to my class to hear about it because people do
like hearing about playing with dicks and stretching vaginas. They
like these things. They're interesting. You don't necessarily want
to become a porn star. You don't necessarily want to open a clip
store, but you might want to shake a double ended dildo, so Word.
These are things that are on our horizon that hopefully we will do.
And then of course, followed by a TED talk and a masterclass
obviously, obviously and then your own line of dildos. Specifically
double ended ones with a pink stripe on them with for therapeutic
reasons only
Alice Vaughn 1:00:17
at every therapists office in Nova Scotia.
Samantha Mac 1:00:21
Look at me Mom, I made it.
Yvette d'Entremont 1:00:23
I have an aunt who is going to be blushing her way through therapy.
Yes, sorry, Tom Chanel, it was my fault.
Alice Vaughn 1:00:30
But in all seriousness, I would love if you came out with honestly
a web series because that's something that I know for myself, who's
in New York events in LA, you know, we can't readily fly to Canada
as much as we'd like. So to have the access, I mean, I would love
to, you know, instead of paying for a flight, hotel, and etc, to
come out there, I wouldn't mind paying for a class online just so I
can learn what I need to learn and know how to do it right.
Yvette d'Entremont 1:00:59
I know needs to know how to look good on camera when I'm having
sit, wait, that's not what I want to I want to learn, although I
do. I want to know what's in this class to like, these are things
that I think people are curious about period. So I mean, if we're
not the only ones who want to know,
Samantha Mac 1:01:16
and I mean, I've got a ton of people asking me like if they can
come from Eastern Canada or from the States, I had somebody from
Tanzania messaged me, and I was like, Oh, don't bother coming.
It'll be a waste of your money. Like, we're just doing an info
session, like, stay where you are. So I want to be able to expand
and reach people that physically cannot be here in my presence. But
that is not where we're at this week. That is a future project.
Nonetheless, yes, we've evolved a lot. And I know that this is
going to continue to evolve. And we're at a point now where like, I
could watch a couple have sex and give them tips and pointers on
how to do it better on camera. But now we're at a point where like,
I'm bringing in professionals to teach things that even I'm not
necessarily the best ad because they're important, like anal sex,
not a class I can teach if I've done too DVDs called all anal
volumes one and two. And my scenes are not good. I literally ripped
my asshole open before one of the scenes did the scene like
squinching through pain the whole time and it still made it to the
DVD for some reason. And now my husband is scarred for life and
he'll never fuck my asshole again. So there's no fucking volunteer
out there
Alice Vaughn 1:02:23
and you're stumped, asshole. You need a stunt asshole.
Samantha Mac 1:02:26
Well, I still want to have anal sex, but he's so scarred from
filming the scene with me, knowing that I asked was ripped open
from stretching the night before and it's a whole, a whole bunch of
things could go wrong. But through this process of me learning by
trial and error, I can save a lot of other people from having the
same mistakes and I can help them be more successful. So learn from
my mistakes, but also, in a situation like anal sex, don't learn
from me. We will bring in a professional who is an anal Acrobat who
can give you the real insider information and hidden tips and
secrets to be successful at anal sex because I was not successful.
Oh
Yvette d'Entremont 1:03:01
yeah, anal sex can be wonderful and amazing, or it can go horribly
wrong. So, take the steps do the work. It's just there's diligence
required, but your patients will be rewarded. That is my glowing
recommendation for the sex.
Alice Vaughn 1:03:17
If you're listening to this podcast and you haven't had anal sex
yet and you want to explore anal, start with a Pinkie seriously
Yvette d'Entremont 1:03:24
start small start small size matters. Don't be ambitious, like you
know how people are telling you to be motivated and ambitious.
Don't do that with that sex. No low and slow. Do you
Alice Vaughn 1:03:35
guys understand how ambitious event and IR fairy?
Yvette d'Entremont 1:03:40
Let's take it back. Do you know how ambitious Alice is and how I
kind of do the minimum required and show up and just spout out
funny as necessary. I worked as hard as I needed to for an A minus
and it worked out.
Unknown Speaker 1:03:53
We're both telling you start tiny start tiny,
Yvette d'Entremont 1:03:57
however much lube you think you need double, a triple But that is
how you will not fuck this up probably. And don't be afraid of the
enema. Embrace the enema, we want you to enjoy all your holes that
you want to enjoy.
Alice Vaughn 1:04:11
So, Sam this has been awesome speaking to you, where can our
listeners find you and more of you and your content and your porno
boot camp
Samantha Mac 1:04:19
so you can find more about more of boot camp at Mac models.ca
because we are canadian.ca everything that I film and produce I put
on Mac movies.ca first because we provide our Canadians with
Canadian content first and foremost. And then you can follow us on
Mac movies calm if you'd like to join our membership site, which
gets content throughout the week casually. But if you want it
first, you go to the Mac reviews.ca because you know what
somebody's gonna put Canadians first. Other than that, I'm all over
the social media at the Samantha Mack spelt like the truck, not
like the makeup and
Alice Vaughn 1:04:58
I will There's a truck the Mack trucks
Samantha Mac 1:05:01
the big giant aka the big semies No, you don't know your big law
here.
Yvette d'Entremont 1:05:09
Every so often we stumble across a gap analysis knowledge of
general terminology, but it happens to me too.
Alice Vaughn 1:05:16
I'm sorry I'm not familiar with semi trucks do not
Samantha Mac 1:05:21
know about long distance trucking.
Yvette d'Entremont 1:05:23
How is this not a thing that you've researched in depth in your in
your education? Alice, I have disappointed in you.
Alice Vaughn 1:05:30
I'm sorry. I know about 16 wheelers and other capacities.
Samantha Mac 1:05:34
Wait, what other capacities? We'll discuss on Patreon. Yeah, I'm
I'm Samantha Mac, I'm on everything except Instagram, which has put
me in jail a few times. So now my new account is the Samantha Mac
underscore. Oh, Instagram your
Unknown Speaker 1:05:49
fun.
Samantha Mac 1:05:50
Yeah. We also have like the Mac models on Instagram. We've got the
Mac models and Mac movies on Twitter. Anything of the Mac related
we've caught
Alice Vaughn 1:05:57
and do you also have the big back?
Samantha Mac 1:05:59
No That is copywritten that is I am not allowed to have the Big Mac
god damn it
Alice Vaughn 1:06:04
jerks. By the way we have more of this conversation over at Patreon
so just by the way some of our patrons we want to thank this week
hack Sora Steven Jones Wendy Cornwall Teresa Sal tordjman kallstrom
Scott fendley sam mon to Neil Simpson, Neil hallstrom, my humble
assassin, Mike sorbetto, Matthew Cole, MC, Angus, and many many
others and if you want to become a Patreon yourself and hear more
of this conversation, just hop on to patreon.com slash to girls
with Mike. It's also in the show notes. So just click on it, you
know, help support the show, help support the editing and you
know,
Yvette d'Entremont 1:06:40
keep the lights on help us eventually break into the black. Okay,
one day because we were getting there. With your help, I will we
will one day be able to afford things we're paying for. We can do
this
Unknown Speaker 1:06:52
one day to group effort help us pay for our porn one day I'll be
able to afford more than just a fidget spinner bud plug
Yvette d'Entremont 1:07:00
We want to fidget spinner about flux
Alice Vaughn 1:07:03
so event where can our listeners find you by the way?
Yvette d'Entremont 1:07:05
Y'all can find me at the Sybase on Instagram and Twitter and
over@facebook.com slash cyber. I am snarky and sciency and
occasionally political. Alice, where can people find you and our
social media for the podcast
Alice Vaughn 1:07:18
so guys go to girls on mic comm we have all the social media to
Twitter to Facebook. They're also the Patreon Of course, but myself
you could find being snarky and with bud plugs, I guess, at
rational blonde on Twitter. Thanks for joining us this week, and we
will see you guys next week.
Unknown Speaker 1:07:35
Bye bye bye.
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