Jul 3, 2019
Alice & Yvette are joined this week with Vice President of the Adult Performer Advocacy Committee (APAC) & pornstar Riley Reyes (RileyReyXXX)! The threesome nerd out and get weird with porn horcruxes, consent culture in porn, ethical porn, clown orgies, bad sex advice, alternative sex toy stores, and a squirrel eating a taco shell in a tree.
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Yvette d'Entremont 0:02
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Yvette d'Entremont 1:01
This is two girls. One Mike, the show that talks about the holes
and plotholes of your favorite porn.
Welcome to Two girls one Mike the porn cast where the orgasms are made up and the plot doesn't matter. I'm your co host Yvette Dr. Mon here is my lovely by vivacious rambunctious, hysterical. And did I mention she has a nice butt co host Alice Vaughn Ellis, how the fuck are you doing today?
Alice Vaughn 1:25
I am so disappointed in you. The plot doesn't matter. I'm sorry.
You know,
Yvette d'Entremont 1:29
it doesn't. But that's why we can make fun of it. And it can still
be a fantastic porn that gets you off.
Alice Vaughn 1:35
I feel like I don't know you anymore.
Yvette d'Entremont 1:39
Well, I mean, that was part of the premise of the podcast before we
started doing this was you know, you can make fun of the science in
a sci fi movie and you too bad you still get out of that movie,
what you went in there for? And it's kind of same thing with a
porn, or at least it used to be before we really started doing this
podcast and now I'm like, No, I want the pot to be good.
Alice Vaughn 1:56
I mean, the problem is now that if the pot sucks, I can't get out.
Yeah,
Yvette d'Entremont 2:00
it's really sad now I'm like, really? Your entire plot was just
step mother thinks step daughter's boyfriend is hot. Like that's
your entire plot. Come on.
Alice Vaughn 2:10
Really? This is a fake cab you okay? You don't have Venmo you don't
have PayPal. There is no other way we can pay for this transaction
except tips. This is the only way
Yvette d'Entremont 2:20
to be fair. I've had some really dark times in New York, but that
was before Venmo so I don't believe any of it now. So Riley What do
you think? And actually, guys, we have a guest on the show today.
We have a three way scissoring today, guys, it's gonna be very hot.
I'm so excited. That sounds very complicated. You know, six legs
shit can happen.
Alice Vaughn 2:40
Am I that flexible? Is the question. So we have on the show,
performer and advocate vice president of APAC, the adult performer
advocacy committee, Riley raise Riley, welcome
Riley Reyes 2:52
to the show. Thank you. I'm excited to be here.
Yvette d'Entremont 2:54
We're very happy to have you on with us.
Unknown Speaker 2:56
So question, is there a way to pay for it? taxicab other than money
in tickets
Riley Reyes 3:02
other than money and tickets. I don't think so.
Unknown Speaker 3:05
There's so many other body parts
Riley Reyes 3:06
I feel like it's just money or sex. I guess you could give someone
drugs or food depending on their motivation but probably not like a
real cab probably just like some guy you know,
Yvette d'Entremont 3:18
feel like most regular cabs are going to be like now I want to cash
Yeah, I feel like there are some that be like no my as much as I
would love you to suck my dick like my boss is gonna kill me if I
don't come back with this ride paid for. Who knows. I've also never
had to, you know fuck a pizza delivery boy. But you know, then
again, my husband used to be a pizza delivery boy. So you could say
I'm fucking one all the damn time.
Alice Vaughn 3:41
Well, there you go. Does he ever bring you a pizza is a better
question.
Yvette d'Entremont 3:44
Oh, he doesn't. This whole relationship is built on a throne of
lies and I need my husband to bring me a pizza. Clearly. I'm the
cook in the house. He's the one that makes coffee.
Riley Reyes 3:56
It's important to have your roles figured out like that. Good
division of labor. He makes Much
Yvette d'Entremont 4:00
better coffee than me I it's not that he can't cook it's that I
love it. So that's how the division happened. But yeah, I do get to
fuck up delivery boy we should we should roll we've never role
played that though that is happening and I'm going to mix it with
the horse that challenge
Alice Vaughn 4:15
I kind of want you guys to go all in on this roleplay like I want
him to apply for a job at a local Pizza Hut pizza store really
commit I don't
Yvette d'Entremont 4:22
know which one he worked at like you know his high school job and
I'm like I want him to show up to the door with a pizza.
Alice Vaughn 4:28
I want you just to make the actual transaction like call up your
local Domino's and say I would like to place an order he applied
for specifically a little delivery boy job and he came to deliver a
pizza so I think
Yvette d'Entremont 4:41
your give me a few days I can talk him into this. I'm very invested
in my roleplay I'm sorry there's no other way to put this you know
he was down for having his penis cloned for clonal Willie, so I'm
pretty sure I can talk him into baby. I have this idea. So how
would you like to go back to working at Domino's again cuz you I'm
sure you would love it so much as a teenager.
Alice Vaughn 5:02
Riley, what's the most interesting job? You've had either fake job
performing in porn or just in real life?
Riley Reyes 5:09
I mean, my job before I got into porn was working in production.
And I did a lot of theater. And I did a lot of department store
window installations actually in New York City. So the high end
department store windows were pretty cool. We used to make a bunch
of crazy sculptures. I'd be in some warehouse in Red Hook
fiberglassing things in the middle of the summer. It was wild
actually sounds like a lot of fun. Not the fiberglassing but a lot
of the other stuff. I got to paint and glitter things and put fake
snow on stuff and make tiny Christmas elves. That was fun.
Yvette d'Entremont 5:41
I can see that being good. So Riley, how did
Alice Vaughn 5:43
you get into the industry? Since you were a creative before?
Riley Reyes 5:47
Oh, I really consider myself kind of a hobbyist who went Pro.
Alright, so I was working as an artist. I was going to lots and
lots of sex parties, like on weekends, sometimes even during the
week. I'd really fallen in with this. Cool crowd of like New York
City, Brooklynite. vernors would love to warehouse parties that
Bernard says and they go to brown and like polyamorous people,
swingers all having these really neat themed sex parties and I was
out playing going to these parties constantly, pretty much every
weekend. Now part of me wants to know if we have friends in common
from that. See,
Alice Vaughn 6:23
I have a strong feeling. We have a lot of friends in common since
I'm in New York and I have a lot of friends who are burners so
Riley Reyes 6:29
well, I'm sure I have fucked some people, you know. But that's the
scene kind of inspired me to try out porn. I'd always wanted to try
but people tell you, it'll ruin your life and you'll be a social
pariah. But once I was friends with these people, I said, You know,
I don't think it will. I think these people will still like me and
be my friend and did a few scenes is kind of on a lark and really
liked it and ended up finally moving to Los Angeles to pursue it
full time.
Yvette d'Entremont 6:56
I highly encourage moving to Los Angeles, not not just for porn,
just because Los Angeles is way better than anywhere else in the
universe or New York.
Alice Vaughn 7:03
I'm very offended by that.
Yvette d'Entremont 7:05
I'm like, Look, it's just it's New York only it's warm and you feel
like you can take a breath once in a while because the city isn't
screaming at you constantly. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 7:13
but you're not in traffic half the day, so Okay, fine. You
Riley Reyes 7:16
wait, what about pizza rat? I think we're all forgetting the
cultural importance of pizza rats. A rat
Yvette d'Entremont 7:22
was a hoax.
Unknown Speaker 7:23
No,
Unknown Speaker 7:24
yes, it was an amazingly well executed hoax. I was
Alice Vaughn 7:28
shocked. It was all of us.
Yvette d'Entremont 7:30
We were all a part of it. And it was all a part of us. But no, it
was this person that pulls off these kind of like viral social
media hoaxes. It's the most I read the story a bit and I was like,
nothing is real. And I question everything now. It's amazing all
the little things that somebody might be out there doing these
little pranks that were like this fucked with my senses of reality.
And you think this is real and finding out pizza route was fake was
just Why?
Alice Vaughn 7:55
I mean, it's just so symbolic of New York to I mean, I saw and I'm
not even kidding when I say This I saw a few months ago, a squirrel
in the trees with a taco shell. And I felt like that embodied a lot
of me. But I mean still pizza rat is just
Unknown Speaker 8:10
Alice Are you sure that's not your animal guy? You're your spirit
creature that you it's not your form that you're transformed into
like in the Harry Potter universe and no I am. I feel a squirrel
with a taco is you?
Unknown Speaker 8:26
You're very fast paced and you like tacos? I think it's you.
Riley Reyes 8:29
That's a powerful talisman.
Yvette d'Entremont 8:33
Yeah, squirrel at the taco.
Alice Vaughn 8:34
So I feel like we kind of touched on this before we started the
show. But what are the horcruxes and porn?
Yvette d'Entremont 8:40
What are the pieces of ones of a porn star soul I think or wherever
you store your soul.
Unknown Speaker 8:46
I mean, one of them easily, like a lot of souls can fit in dreads
penis or his testicles. subleased
Yvette d'Entremont 8:52
there's another one for dreads penis. His dreads penis is actually
one of Voldemort's horcruxes
Riley Reyes 8:58
jets penis is testament to what the human body can be. It defies
all reason. And it's been inside my butthole so I feel pretty
proud. Oh, we have questions
Yvette d'Entremont 9:09
ask, how long did it take to ease it in? That's what I got to
know.
Riley Reyes 9:14
Well, the thing with angel is that if you're going for something
that big, it isn't even really a day of sort of process. It's the
like, weeks leading up to a sort of process where you're gonna work
your way up like bigger and bigger bugs until you're ready. So the
day of it didn't take that long. Cool.
Alice Vaughn 9:32
I feel like this is what should be in an Olympic event almost being
able to mount it.
Yvette d'Entremont 9:36
Yeah, I mean, he is mountain Dredd. We just have all the respect in
the world both for that penis and for anyone who dares attempt it.
So we
Alice Vaughn 9:44
got hemorrhoids just thinking about it.
Riley Reyes 9:46
Well, people do fisting so you know,
Yvette d'Entremont 9:48
yeah. Where would you hide yourself or actually would have to be
something that people would have to work hard to find.
Alice Vaughn 9:54
Definitely is not in the tub of lube on set a Bible.
Riley Reyes 9:58
Oh, Bible would be an interesting one. I feel like one of the
things about a Horcrux is its creation, right? So you have to be
tearing your soul into pieces while it is created. So, to create a
Horcrux in porn, you would have to be doing some sort of an
activity that sort of broke your soul a little bit. So I feel like
it would probably be at one of those big shiny red carpet events
where all the cameras are pointed at me and I just want to be at
home watching Netflix. I feel like my soul gets broken a little bit
so probably one of my handbags from that nice nondescript barely
comes out of the closet. No one
Unknown Speaker 10:34
else thinks about it, you know, put it into the goodie bag. That's
you know, it's like, oh, I clitoral lube. That's something I really
needed to spit isn't a thing. Exactly. Since we're all nerding out
here. I did a little bit of research on you Riley and I found
something what that kind of made me fall in love with you when you
run a podcast. It's called research when you're just a plain old
human on the internet. It's a little bit of stalking. Thanks, but
we run a podcast So it's good to find
Alice Vaughn 11:01
so I love how you created your last name for porn. Oh, yeah. Coming
from Firefly, right?
Riley Reyes 11:07
Yeah, I had to change it though I haven't been Riley Reynolds in
years because there was another Brian Reynolds who is an agent in
Florida, who ended up having a very unflattering documentary made
about him hot girls wanted. And oh, when I first started in porn, I
used the name Riley Reynolds. I was super excited to take the name
of Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly. And then I had to change it
because I was associated with him and it was not doing well for my
brand. So I changed it to a name as close as I could come and I'm
Riley Raz, but uh, you did some digging. She was thorough, and I'm
sad to have lost my Firefly name. But it was his birth name. And
there was a big popular documentary and there was no way I was
going to rest my name back from that.
Yvette d'Entremont 11:52
Fair enough. I think I might have seen that one. Was that the
documentary on on people looking for models in Russia or am I
mixing it up with another creepy documentary It was
Riley Reyes 12:00
a creepy documentary based in Florida and produced by overheated
Jones.
Alice Vaughn 12:05
Oh, wait, I know which one you're talking about. That's the one
that where they discuss people getting into the industry for about
three months. The Florida culture of porn and all of that stuff
with it, right? Yeah.
Riley Reyes 12:17
So the agent there is Riley Reynolds of hasi models. No. Yeah. So
that is it's actually always interesting. Many people in interviews
like So tell me about how you chose your name. And I'm like, I
chose the nearest name. I could get to my old name that I
wanted.
Alice Vaughn 12:36
Oh, there was a nerd connection. I tried.
Riley Reyes 12:40
I will Firefly is very exciting. I got to see their 20th reunion
panel at New York Comic Con so there's that was cool. I can't
believe it's
Yvette d'Entremont 12:48
been that long since so many people got so mad about it being
canceled.
Riley Reyes 12:52
Yeah, and that was a couple years ago.
Yvette d'Entremont 12:54
It was all foxes fault. A lot of things are all box sorry. You're
not sorry. No, I'm not at all. Yeah, that seems fair. I stand by
that statement.
Alice Vaughn 13:05
But yeah, so talking about a shitty movie that of how people are
treated poorly in the industry, I think can be a decent segue to
what you do, which is the wonderful work that APAC does. Why would
we actually start by talking a little bit about what a PAC is?
Because I'm still learning about it. And event and I are industry
adjacent.
Yvette d'Entremont 13:24
Yeah, we consider ourselves you know, not part of, you know, in
this and I don't think our audience or most of it is heard about
this. So and they should
Riley Reyes 13:32
well, APAC is the adult farmer advocacy committee. We are a small
nonprofit, but we are run entirely by and for the performers. So
unlike FSC, the free speech coalition, which does amazing things
for the industry, but is more representative of producers because
that's where they get their funding. We are really, by and for
performers exclusively and try to provide them with support
resources, education. We also do like lobbying and outreach to
lawmakers to help us be better represented on that end.
Alice Vaughn 14:07
That's awesome. I knew it was already a great group when I clicked
on the homepage and one of the performers that I saw front and
center was Ella darling, whom we love her. Oh, yes, Ella
Riley Reyes 14:17
was on the board for many years. She is no longer but she is still
a valued supporter.
Alice Vaughn 14:23
So would you consider a pack a union for performers or just really
a resource hub?
Riley Reyes 14:29
We're not a union. We're, we're just an advocacy group. I love the
idea of adult performers unionizing. But because we are so
disparate, and because we are so varied in our backgrounds, it's
hard to get people to unite behind a banner for collective
bargaining. So a pack just acts as an advocacy organization, a
support organization and a community organization. So what type of
specific things do you do for performers, I think our audience
would love to hear a few examples here. I'd love to talk about the
programs we have. I have recently pioneered a launch of a
mentorship program where experienced performers can help newer
performers in need, who want to have that kind of community
support. We also offer mental health resources. We've got a sign up
for group therapy sessions for people in the industry, which we
find people need often after a loss in the industry or something
else difficult that's going on. And we also provide monthly
meetings that are accompanied by some sort of an enriching event.
So it'll be a workshop on how to do rope bondage, or it'll be a
class on how to handle your taxes or it'll be a community event to
support a cause. We just did our pride month meeting, which was to
benefit buck angels new charity transform house for recently
incarcerated trans folks to help them transition to the next stage
of their life. Nice. That was an amazing laundry list of a very
wide range of services. We keep busy, and we try to help people
with whatever they come to us with people will come to us needing
legal support to get out of a situation with an agent. They're no
longer happy with people who have come to us. Just for career
advice people have come to us and looking to find just community
events where they can be close to their fellow performers. We get
all kinds of inquiries when we try to help everyone we can we also
get inquiries from people who do not belong there like this guy's
trying to get into porn or things like that.
Yvette d'Entremont 16:41
We get a lot of those. That's special. And now with sesta fossa
have new challenges and new things you need to provide resources to
deal with have any of those come up because it says to foster
Riley Reyes 16:55
honestly says to foster has most distinctly impacted People who are
doing full service sex work, which is not specifically in our
purview as an adult performer organization. But we have found that
after sesta fascia, we've been able to form coalition with other
sex worker activist groups to great effect. We've been helping to
push to get Senate Bill, believe it's 233 passed here in
California, which would help full service sex workers, it would not
allow them to use condoms as evidence in cases prosecuting sex
workers and also gives them immunity from being charged if they
come forward about violent crimes they've witnessed or that have
been perpetrated against them. Oh, thank God. So that's really cool
and has made it through two of the three things that needs to do to
get past That's awesome. Now quick question regarding not utilizing
condoms as evidence. I'm just curious what the idea rationale
behind that as honestly I'm don't understand the rationale behind
using them as evidence in Many places in the United States and I'm
sure the world just carrying condoms can make you a suspect as
someone who sells sex
Alice Vaughn 18:10
Oh, okay. Not a used condom. It just Yes, having a pack of condoms.
Oh,
Riley Reyes 18:15
I was thinking DNA testing. So if you are, let's say a trans woman
walking in the wrong part of town, and you have condoms on you,
they'll use that as evidence that he was a sex worker. Correct. And
that is outrageous and encourages unsafe behavior and makes things
riskier for those most marginalized and so, APAC is for adult
former specifically, but we always try to lend a hand if there are
other sex worker causes that we can boost like that. My brain still
going you mean having a condom on you can? like yeah, I'll get over
that in like two weeks. Yeah, they're really reaching for straws to
profile people. Usually trans women of color. real growth.
Yeah,
Alice Vaughn 19:01
that's very disappointing. And another thing you mentioned,
actually, so going back for a hot second, sometimes even weeding
out potentially bad apples, you know, people coming into the
industry who really, you know, set their expectations differently,
or even maybe directors or persons who may not be acting well. So
I'm curious, I know even one of our patrons, Mike sorbetto. He was
interested in what might be being done if anything to address bad
behavior within the industry. I feel like everybody has had an idea
of how mi two has kind of impacted, really everything else. But no
one's really talked about what's being done in porn, if anything at
all.
Riley Reyes 19:38
I feel like in porn, since it's sort of decentralized, it becomes
hard to have any kind of a body that will oversee these sorts of
problems. Yeah, the porn industry doesn't have an HR. The closest
thing it has is APAC and FSC. And we really fall short of being
able to fulfill those duties, having a board that can oversee
complaints, provide people with training and gain some kind of
justice is a special skill set all in itself, you basically need an
HR department to be operating. And we simply don't have one as an
industry. And so right now we're operating on pretty much a call
out culture and then independent investigations by the production
company associated with the director or photographer who had the
complaint against them. And those investigations are varying in
rigor and in public satisfaction with their accountability, which
is shame. I mean, we know that there have been complaints about for
instance, James Dean in the past, I mean, some fairly severe
complaints and he's performing again and there are some performers
that just won't work with the companies that are hiring him. And I
don't know if that's fair. I don't know if that's right. That you
know, some women are just staying away from potential women. work.
I don't want to say that it's mandatory that it be forced out of
the industry, but it's very strange. They're like, well, he might
have done something that that violates the rules of everything we
try to say is happening in sex and should happen in consensual sex,
but we're just gonna, we're gonna let that slide like, I don't know
what the answer to that is. It's really frustrating that we have no
framework for any kind of justice. Really, it's all just vague and
decentralized. But ideally, if we could have a framework, I would
like I would like it to be one that was based on restorative
justice. That makes sense. The allegations that I know of against
James were from a while ago, and I certainly I'm not saying they
didn't happen, I'm saying, I would like to see a path towards
redemption that he could take to reenter the community in a way
that was fully accountable, and not just this sort of vague. Well,
I guess it's been long enough that he was in timeout. Let's test it
again. kind of vibe that I'm getting now. I wish there was
something a little more
Yvette d'Entremont 21:59
Yeah, I mean, that's It's okay for when your dog sits on the
carpet, but not when a human does it to your industry. And I don't
know what the answer is like, Is there an amount of time? Yeah,
those are just the things we're struggling with, I guess
Riley Reyes 22:10
I have interacted with him. And I get the impression from
interacting with him that he understands why what he did before was
wrong and is interested in interacting with the culture in a way
that is productive at positive at this point. But at the end of the
day, I'm just one person who talked to him a few times. I'd love
for there to be a system in place that could actually create a
restorative justice structure. Yeah,
Yvette d'Entremont 22:38
exactly. That would be fantastic.
Alice Vaughn 22:40
Yeah, the problem is, especially with cloud culture, it's Yes, you
can call out bad behavior, but what is the actionable thing that
you can do? The problem is, especially in porn, is that if
hypothetically something happens on set, I mean, not only do you
not have HR, but if hypothetically, someone does so Non consensual
onset to you guys. It's gonna be even harder to hypothetically go
to even the cops because
Unknown Speaker 23:05
well, you're a porn actor Didn't you know this is part of the
deal?
Alice Vaughn 23:08
Exactly. And that's not okay. At all. Their problem is that they
make so many assumptions about you guys as well as the industry
itself that you guys get less help than really anyone.
Riley Reyes 23:23
Yeah. Law enforcement doesn't know what to do if one of us tries to
come to them with an assault story, because their whole ideas
Didn't you get paid to go to set and have sex, and they don't have
any kind of understanding of nuance, and there's no way for them to
really interact with it. Well, you're saying cops don't understand
nuance what what are you saying? You crazy ideas you're having here
whole legal system doesn't understand anything involving nuancing
consent, like no, it has a lot of trouble even recognizing date
rape as a rape because you went out with tend to go on a date. Now,
if you showed up on set to a highly stigmatized profession to have
sex on camera for a living, the legal system really is not prepared
to give you any kind of justice. And so you have to sort of seek it
on your own through your community. And that sucks. And it's
interesting, because I've heard it's funny people will come to me
and say, but Alice, they'll say that you need consent during every
step of the wait, like, you know, can I touch you? Can I do
this?
Alice Vaughn 24:27
Yeah. Have you ever had sex with someone? I want to ask those
people? And to those same people, I kind of want to say like,
Yvette d'Entremont 24:32
what about when I stick a finger in your butthole? Is that okay? I
didn't ask. Do I have to as soon as I'm naked? It means I can put
anything and anything and not ask according to some people were too
shitty,
Riley Reyes 24:44
right? I feel like there's an opportunity on every adult set. Since
you guys are industry. Jason, you probably know this. Before every
scene you'll have a little quick talk about do's and don'ts. And a
lot of times that's your opportunity to communicate that but I
think Find a lot, especially with newer performers. They don't even
necessarily know what might come up that they are not comfortable
with. Yeah, like a newer girl might not realize she has to say, I
don't like spit in my face, please. Or don't choke me. Those are
things that I know I would have to say if I didn't want them. But a
lot of people don't necessarily know what the sandbox that they're
playing in looks like what the edges of it are. Yeah, and which
things they would have to negotiate before they start doing a
scene.
Yvette d'Entremont 25:29
Like I did not know that I did not like canes until the first time
tried having someone cane me and it was not pleasant. And I did not
like I don't know still if they were just bad at it. How do you
know that going in? Or it was just that's how I learned and it
would have sucked a lot to find out on a porn set.
Riley Reyes 25:48
I always am fascinated with people who do experimentation on camera
for that reason. I know some people like love that they have
documented their first and they got to explore on camera. Sophia
grace told me that was one Her favorite things about porn is that
she gots to all this sexual exploration on camera. I'm just sitting
there. What if you didn't like it is so much pressure to
Yvette d'Entremont 26:08
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a good enough actor to pretend that
something's making me feel good when I want to punch the person
doing to me in the face. Sorry.
Riley Reyes 26:15
Right. So I think part of the problem is people don't understand
what they can negotiate for. I've noticed more and more companies
because of this problem, have implemented two things. One of them
is for performer on performer concerns what we're talking about
right now. And what they've done for that is they've started
including a consent checklist for performers, something really
simple that just has your physical and your verbal do's and don'ts
that performers can fill out before scene for one another. I know
gamma is doing this and all these sets and several other companies
have started to do this, I think to legally cover their asses, but
it's also creating a consent culture that I like to see and I'm
excited that it's there.
Alice Vaughn 26:57
I think that's great. However,
Riley Reyes 26:59
a lot of reasons Farmers seem to view it as stupid. Like I've been
on set with people who are in philosophic. What do you mean?
nicknames? You can't call me I'm like, if you don't want to be
called a whore, that's a thing. Like, what do you mean like do's
and don'ts and like, well, like, some people don't like to be
choked. Some people don't like to be spit on. Some people don't
like snowballing. Like, you just just pick the things you don't
want to do. And if it's, and they even on the gamma sets require
you to write an A, if there's nothing that you want to say, just so
that they have a documentation that you had the option to say that.
And when they give you this paperwork, they also tell you that you
have the right to change your mind at anytime and call cut at any
time. If you change your mind about how you feel during the course
of the scene, which I think is really a step in the right
direction.
Alice Vaughn 27:45
I think that's completely fair. I mean, you could be
hypothetically, let's say into choking, but maybe a specific
performer is doing it in a way that you don't feel comfortable with
them doing that to you. So why not say no, actually, we tried it
during the scene. I I'm good. Let's not continue.
Riley Reyes 28:02
Yeah, it's important to be able to retract. This is a win for
everyone. Hopefully the culture will start to become more
comfortable with this idea of talking about your do's and don'ts. I
think it makes a better scene. I think it's hot away, and it will
have better sex. If I have a little sheet or I can go. You know
what, I don't really like it when you spank me. But like, I would
love it if you choked me, and I like things to be really sloppy
with lots of spit. Are you comfortable with that? And I think that
you get a better scene when people know what each other like, I
don't think there's anything bad about you
Yvette d'Entremont 28:34
get excited about things together as opposed to talking someone
into it. Crazy thought.
Alice Vaughn 28:40
So actually, this kind of leads into another question that another
one of her patrons had. Paul, he mentioned, what do you wish people
knew about the porn they consume? And the people who helped make
it? I mean, we're kind of getting into the topic of ethical porn,
and we always encourage our listeners to pay for your porn.
Seriously guys pay for your porn pay for your porn. But in all
honesty, people have asked, Well, how do I know what I'm consuming
is ethical. I mean, do you have any insight into that?
Riley Reyes 29:11
The best surefire way to know that someone wants to be making the
porn you're consuming is to buy the porn that they make themselves
subscribed to their only fans buy from their clips for sale, buy it
directly from the performer that you like, because that way you
know that they're basically just making the porn that they want to
make with their buddies. That is a really good piece of insight.
Otherwise, I mean, I could list off a bunch of companies that I
like and that I've had good experiences with. But honestly,
people's experiences vary, and I feel a little bit reticent to
project my own experiences onto everybody else. But I'd say just
try to go out there and honestly, consuming from the bigger studios
or directly from performers is probably the safest CEOs like
penthouse or like gamma, who I've been talking so fondly of, like
even kink, who had a bit of a rocky start now has really amazing
consent work. Any of these more big brands are going to have a more
well oiled consent machine and sort of HR department in a way. It's
basically big studios or direct from performer and of course, I
like direct from performer because that's me, and that's me and my
friends having the sex that we want to have, you know, in our
apartments and filming it for you guys. And there's something
really cool and intimate about that.
Yvette d'Entremont 30:38
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Alice Vaughn 32:10
I really, right now this is just going into my own fantasy
territory because I just want to start supplying I feel like Alice
is gonna be a cam girl one day I know I guys,
Yvette d'Entremont 32:20
no, stop it. Maybe there is nothing wrong with that and you're
asked would make a killing. I'm just saying no, she had a great
app.
Alice Vaughn 32:26
You don't even know where I'm going by this. I
Yvette d'Entremont 32:29
know. I was just derailing it as usual. Go on, go on
Alice Vaughn 32:33
green screens. So Riley, I kind of want more performers to have
green screens. Because yes, you could be putting a dildo into your
ass. But what if it was on
Yvette d'Entremont 32:45
the moon? I want it to be on the side of Jurassic Park. I want
dinosaurs ripping each other to shreds behind your fucking
Riley Reyes 32:52
Oh my God, I should get a green screen. Because I'm obsessed with
bad dragon. I've got all these really fun fantasy dildo you're
always like, they don't really fit in in my bedroom or my living
room or any of the other sets I can rent even like the cool ones
it's like a bar or a restaurant or a doctor's office or school they
still didn't fit with a bad dragon dildos but I could green screen
and all kinds of crazy fantasy shit.
Alice Vaughn 33:15
You could be a guest on Larry King. Oh my god Shut
Yvette d'Entremont 33:19
up. I have a green screen you can borrow? I live in in the dtla
area
Riley Reyes 33:24
that's amazing. I'm gonna get my elf ears and all my various
monster pillows and show up at your house.
Unknown Speaker 33:30
Oh my god, it's Don't tempt her this is going to happen.
Yvette d'Entremont 33:33
I know when we first moved into this place it's basically the area
where our bed is now was once upon a time used as a stage and when
we first put the bed on to it because they had not taken down the
light and the speakers were like fuck There's our bedroom look like
a porn set and I'm I'm a little sad that the lights were taken down
like the part of me that's like, I would like a place that looks
livable. Thank you is glad that they're down. But like for a while
it was like, Can we turn on the red and blue While we're having sex
tonight, we have enough lights and everything set up and I'm like
when should we start renting this out for porn productions?
Riley Reyes 34:08
Well now you've done it now you're not gonna be able to get rid of
me
Yvette d'Entremont 34:11
darn come on over I'll set up a green screen
Alice Vaughn 34:15
Oh, what a shame having Riley come over film a scene? Yeah, come
over and do weird stuff. How weird I might be into it. I'll pay for
it. We have
Yvette d'Entremont 34:24
whatever you need here. I'll provide the sanitation and the lube.
You go to town. I have a really good camera.
Riley Reyes 34:30
Like loudly fisting myself in your home in front of your green
screen
Yvette d'Entremont 34:35
define loudly like well the entire house here just the apartment
because either way it's great. I just want to know
Riley Reyes 34:41
definitely at least the apartment depends how into it I get I
guess. Oh hell yeah.
Yvette d'Entremont 34:45
Let's bring over the bat the bat dragon toys to people need to
sell. Yeah, they're fantastic. If you guys don't know these things
look like either monster. penises or tails are technical. They're
just they're beautiful. If you
Alice Vaughn 34:57
want a demogorgon dick
Riley Reyes 34:59
to have it on. I haven't gotten the demogorgon currently I have a
tentacle that glows in the dark. I have a horse stick. I have one
of their big thick dragon Dix. It's like It's like a fist in its
proportions, which I appreciate. And then I have the Griffin deck,
but it also it has come to so I can make it squirt. I want to
Yvette d'Entremont 35:21
who there was one on there that I decided to order, specifically
because I'm like, I remember killing that creature in Witcher
three. I totally want the dick of it. So if y'all want to know how
nerdy I am, that's how I order my dildos have I killed the creature
in a nerd video game. Yes, I want the deck there
Alice Vaughn 35:38
come lube looks so much like come it's kind of creepy. I
Riley Reyes 35:42
just got a really great viscosity for anal play to
Yvette d'Entremont 35:46
like oh, I'm ordering
Riley Reyes 35:46
that too. I really appreciate I like I love that I'm just like
completely non spawn here like that dragon please notice me let me
be here. spokesmodel I believe in you.
Yvette d'Entremont 35:57
We love bad dragon here too. So it's go ahead and talk them about
You want
Unknown Speaker 36:00
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very happy lady because of them. So
Yvette d'Entremont 36:08
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them as sponsors here Don't worry we're working on it. We want to
get you those promo codes because we want you to pay for your sex
and for your toys but not too much.
Riley Reyes 36:20
They've been very supportive I think because I put up publicity for
them whenever I get a new toy so they've they'll give me discounts
as it is. I
Alice Vaughn 36:28
saw someone and I think it was a bad dragon toy. It has to be I'm
going back to my brain from like a week ago there was a clip online
on Twitter I think it was that either Tommy shared or someone
liked. And it was a woman super tiny. Actually Riley she looked a
lot like you maybe she was you wasn't you
Yvette d'Entremont 36:51
will find out soon
Alice Vaughn 36:53
find out very quickly. But the point is, it was a tentacle, but it
was a huge tentacle. It went up to like boob height. From when she
was sitting and that first off concerned to be second off, she was
very tiny and she got that all into her ass in one shot just went
in
Yvette d'Entremont 37:09
panicle No, it's bigger. It was bigger. It's the reticle I saw
that.
Alice Vaughn 37:14
Okay, so number one, how many organs did she have to remove to get
that in? You
Riley Reyes 37:20
know, it's really amazing Emily people can accommodate. So yeah,
like, honestly, I can fit more badly. But I really respect like
intense high level animal training like that. And I really like
topping for people who aspire to that level of anal sluttiness.
Like, Natalie Mars is amazing as an angel bottom and so is Michael
Vegas. They both just, they could really put a lot in there. And I
really have fun with that.
Yvette d'Entremont 37:48
I'm just laughing because I love that we're at a type of
conversation where we're like, we applaud all the things you stick
in your ass for our pleasure. Thank you so much for the expansive
work you do literally. Yeah, it's long.
Alice Vaughn 38:00
It really is. And there are people who are like, No, I have the
clown car of anuses Oh, it's,
Yvette d'Entremont 38:07
I have nothing to respond with to that.
Unknown Speaker 38:11
You know what, as someone who wants to date a guy with a clown
finish, that's the closest I'll get. So that's a read for me.
Yvette d'Entremont 38:18
I tried to lay tech guy clown fetish. I'm like, I look I don't have
that much time to put on makeup. Like I say that I wear clown
makeup. But like I stopped a little short of like, I've been to a
clown themed orgy.
Riley Reyes 38:32
I went to a friend's birthday party in Bushwick. He is really into
clowning and had always wanted to have a clown orgy. girl who was
dating at the time was sort of a burlesque chick. And he asked for
his birthday present to be a clown orgy. And a lot of people in the
scene sort of grumbled, so they wouldn't be coming. And he said, I
understand. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but this is my
birthday. And I really wanted this for so long. And so everyone who
went had to Be in costume. I painted my face up and I went to this
fantastic clown sex party. Wow, were there different types of
clowns it's someone show up as it were their balloons Did someone
try making a balloon animal out of a penis
Alice Vaughn 39:12
I need to know and then stick it in an ash
Riley Reyes 39:15
there were balloons I didn't see anyone insert them into anyone. No
one went is scary clowns. It was all just sort of designed to be
like circus clowns somewhat for the happy clown someone for the sad
clown little bit of every Oh, and he got a circle of boobs also was
for his birthday present. So we put him in the middle of a circle
of us dressed as clowns with our kids out right. He closed his eyes
he got spun around really, really fast. And then he opened his eyes
again and just like walk towards the first pair of boobs he saw and
then he grabbed all the boobs he could and since we were clowns, we
all started to each make our own noise for our boobs. So we start
like honking rubber.
Yvette d'Entremont 39:50
Yeah. For
Unknown Speaker 39:53
circle of clown
Unknown Speaker 39:53
boobs just a reminder children at home all these things are okay if
everyone has consented.
Riley Reyes 39:59
Yeah, and Of course, he asked right before the circle whoops, he
said, who would like to come to the this room with me and let me
grab their boobs. So we all went to a separate room if that was
something we were interested in, okay with.
Alice Vaughn 40:10
Yeah, that's amazing. Um, what other themed orgies? Have you been
to? Or have them just not held up to clown orgy?
Yvette d'Entremont 40:19
If you have anything that is tops that I need to know,
Riley Reyes 40:21
that clown orgy was definitely the most funny story about, I think
the most impressive one, in terms of world building was a post
apocalypse themed one. Oh my god, the guy who threw it created an
entire story about post apocalyptic new Brooklyn. He posted all of
the events and stories in character as the warlord of post
apocalyptic new Brooklyn. I played a character there and helped him
throw the party as one of his handmaidens. He had a guard. He had
like a whole thing that he staged like later on as he was like
going mad with power and see stayed in character. So it was like a
post apocalyptic sex party meets LARP at least on his part because
he really committed to the character all night other people kind of
came as themselves.
Alice Vaughn 41:10
So based on the level of detail and planning, number one, this is
something Alice is going to start doing. Maybe I'm not saying that
I'm wet over here.
Yvette d'Entremont 41:22
But so how many binders is it take to make a good party? That's
what Alice wants to know. That's what gets her really hard.
Alice Vaughn 41:29
This definitely sounds like three binders at least bare
minimum.
Riley Reyes 41:33
Yeah, this this guy's definitely is someone who appreciates Vampire
the Masquerade. He also did a Vampire the Masquerade themed party,
in which he stayed in character and sort of wrote a whole story for
himself as the host. And we all dress color coded based on like,
which of the houses we were in. He really oh man likes those White
Wolf gaming systems.
Yvette d'Entremont 41:54
I must saying Alice is going to start throwing sex parties, but I'm
saying if she does, this is how she's doing it.
Alice Vaughn 41:59
Well, I'll have to To introduce the two of you. Who lives in
Manhattan? Yes. So, okay, I'll be frank, I haven't gone to a sex
party yet in New York at a pure curiosity, I'll eventually go to
one. But the problem is I feel like my standards are around, learn
more of, because I am a nerd. That's the kind of world I'm
interested in. I'm into people actually caring about roles and
character. So you do something post apocalyptic, you create a
storyline, you
Yvette d'Entremont 42:34
find it a lot of these sex parties, the first like 20 minutes to an
hour that everyone's there. There are a lot of people that are kind
of nervous about the fact that eventually they're going to be naked
and a lot of other people are going to see them so people forget to
stay in character.
Riley Reyes 42:47
Yeah, a lot of these were sort of like innovate only within like
the community that I was in. So you'd have to at least be vouched
for by someone and come in as their couple or through apple or
whatever you wanted to do. And usually For the ones I went to the
first hour or so would be people are coming in the door and it's
almost like a variety cabaret style act of whatever the thing is.
The clown party was a lot less LARP like and a lot more of like a
cabaret with like, Cool variety acts and like burlesque and stuff
like that because that was that group. I just really hope someone
committed ahead of time and just said, No, I'm staying at home. I
can't shoot any clips because I need to learn how to make a balloon
animal. I came in as a Skype guest to the second Vampire the
Masquerade party, as like this freaky vampire Oracle. I did this
crazy makeup with like tear stains like running down my face. And
like we had a whole thing where I couldn't be there to have sex
with people but I made an appearance. Part of
Yvette d'Entremont 43:48
the story. I feel like if there's a picture of this makeup, we need
to take that picture and use it for the promo for the surface.
Riley Reyes 43:54
Oh my gosh, I'll have to go find it. It was on my first Instagram
that got deleted but it may be fundable somewhere. We found
Yvette d'Entremont 44:00
our favorite nerd and the porn verse and we're showing it off
Alice Vaughn 44:03
oh my gosh you guys
Riley Reyes 44:04
you're just sitting here with me with like kind of my entire skull
tapestry in the background. But there is a giant wall sized Rebel
Alliance sigil from Star Wars next to me see a poster for this
thing just a ton of video games let's see a we a ps4 ps to see an
entire come over and we can battle it out in Mario Kart got a 360
over there like we just got like switch a huge I do not have a
switch yet. But it is it is on my wish list right now if any of the
fans would like to buy that for me, like a big old Xena and X Files
box set like that. This is how I'm living, loving nerdery and porn
I see nothing wrong with this lifestyle.
Unknown Speaker 44:46
Oh, it's not like most of our audience isn't turned on by that
thought. Everyone who wasn't already maxed out on places they were
subscribing to for their porn. They're like all right clicking
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Riley Reyes 44:56
I'll be launching my own only fans. here very soon, if they follow
me on social media, they'll be able to catch that launch. I'm
currently stacking up a bunch of fun content for him. But yeah,
they can hang out and see my nerdy self in action. Cuz like, I've
got a ton of video games and tabletop games, and I spent the rest
of my spare time doing besides activism is martial arts. So it's
just gonna be a ton of like, jujitsu shit, nerdy shit and then just
like me being a pervert, that's the whole
Unknown Speaker 45:25
Jiu Jitsu come super in handy though, because you don't have to be
big and massive. You just need to, you need to leverage someone
else's body against them. Exactly.
Riley Reyes 45:36
Sometimes, if someone's bigger, they're even easier to choke their
necks just right there, isn't it? Just asking for it?
Unknown Speaker 45:43
Unless they have no neck. I have so many ways to choke people. Now.
It's exciting. This is very true. Just little bitty pinch right on
right on the sides. But if they have no neck, how
Riley Reyes 45:52
do you grab it? Exactly. I'm saying the bigger people with the
bigger necks. I appreciate them.
Yvette d'Entremont 45:56
Because I mean, normally you pinch the blood vessels, just push
them further out.
Riley Reyes 46:00
A lot of the things that I do in jujitsu, I'm often using people's
collars or using my forearm to kind of, it's a visual gag. But
there's a lot of different ways that you can choke someone, not
necessarily just using your hands like your hands and your arms and
your forearms and sometimes their arm and your leg and it's a
whole, there's a lot of ways,
Unknown Speaker 46:18
no to self sign up for jujitsu, it's pretty
Riley Reyes 46:21
sexy, we roll around and get sweaty and try to choke each other.
I'm into it on a fetish level. And it's also super nerdy, because
it's a strategy game that you play with your body. One of my
friends says, it's like trying to solve a Rubik's Cube that's
trying to solve you at the same time.
Unknown Speaker 46:36
I love that comparison. This is not in any way making me not want
to sign up for Jiu Jitsu lessons.
Riley Reyes 46:44
Yeah, that's a thing I want to do now. It is one of the nerdiest
martial arts, perhaps the nerdiest. There's just something about
the fact that is like legitimate people who enjoy physics puzzles
using the body, like Oh, so if you move the fulcrum a little bit
closer, you could break somebody's arm like this. That's why you
tap.
Yvette d'Entremont 47:02
Oh man,
Alice Vaughn 47:03
so I did jujitsu years ago for a short period of time and because I
kind of double jointed a little bit of when they tried tapping me
out there were a lot of times he just couldn't do it.
Interesting.
Riley Reyes 47:15
Yeah. curious what submissions would work on you while you're
definitely still trackable?
Alice Vaughn 47:19
Oh, very charitable. Sorry, audience now you guys all know.
Yvette d'Entremont 47:26
There are a couple different ways you can choke someone. A lot of
times people who don't know we'll go for the front of the throat
because they think cut off the airway. There are a couple different
spots. You can pinch on the side of the neck that grab the blood
vessels that stop ER and you'll get a few seconds of being feeling
a little high from being oxygen deprived, but you have to like
please don't learn how to choke for me describing it please look
this up, go to a class. Have somebody teach it to you, but yeah,
like, don't go for the windpipe.
Riley Reyes 47:50
Yeah, definitely even at home for sexy times. Just avoid the wind
pipe. That's an amateur move right there. If you're crushing and
hurting my windpipe that's not even good. To get you the good
effects from the choking, like the good sexy effects from the
choking people want or the feeling of the hand on the neck and the
lightheadedness you get from like losing the blood to the brain.
But you have to be very careful with that and very communicative
and do Please do your research. You don't want people to pass out
it could cause brain damage, right? You don't want to cause your
partner brain damage. That's not nice.
Unknown Speaker 48:19
I mean, depends on the I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Unknown Speaker 48:22
Why are you having sex with
Unknown Speaker 48:24
them if you want to give them brain This is why it was a joke with
no meaning whatsoever. There you go.
Alice Vaughn 48:29
So speaking of safety tips during sex, so obviously there's a
number of people who will look at porn stars and say I want to fuck
like a porn star. I'm sure a fair amount do a lot of rookie
mistakes. What are some fun maybe sex tips that you can give to our
listeners at home of do's antidotes aside from don't break your
partner's neck?
Riley Reyes 48:51
Well, I literally also teach classes at sex toy stores and swinger
events and dungeons on how to fuck like a porn star. Most Popular
classes being oral, like a porn star and Anna, like a porn star,
one of my most popular classes, my angel, that's the question I
received the most. So I'm going to talk a bit about that. I feel
like part of the problem with angel is that it's shown a lot in
porn. But we show nothing of the warmth that leads to it. Maybe
it'll show something with a toy or some fingers. But we don't
really show a realistic warm up. Usually someone has warmed up,
offset, and like I said, for the dread seen, if you're getting to
bigger sizes, you weren't at home for weeks leading up to it and
people just don't know, the training required to do the physical
feats that we do. So what I suggest to people for anal, it's not
just about lube and going slow. It's about training your body to
take bigger sizes. My biggest piece of advice is to masturbate,
mainly using toys starting from small and working your way up, and
really give yourself orgasms or something in there. So you get to
know your body and get to know what you do and don't like That way,
it's not just a favor you're doing for some guy. It's a way that
you can experience pleasure and get to know your own body and own
your pleasure. I think that's really important. And otherwise, I
say, pain free angel is the goal. A lot of people think you should
grin and bear it and wince to the pain, you'll get to the good. And
plenty of people get drunk on tequila and do that. And they have a
fine enough time. I did that for a while. But I realized that if
you warm up and stretch and take your time, use your toys, use your
lube, and get your body to where it can stretch. It's just like
yoga, you stretch to the point of discomfort, not the point of
pain, and you stay right there at the point of discomfort and
breathe into it until you're ready to go deeper. And it should be
the same way with anal sex. I don't see why people are so unkind to
their poor buttholes when they treat their other muscles with more
respect,
Unknown Speaker 50:53
please forgive the buttholes people. Yeah, guys.
Unknown Speaker 50:56
It's a delicate area.
Alice Vaughn 50:58
It feels like we should come out with Like wristbands I mean they
had that for what was it testicular cancer at some point the yellow
wristbands should have butthole wristbands they'll be brown.
Riley Reyes 51:08
You know, wellness awareness
Yvette d'Entremont 51:10
will also have pink ones for people who are in favor of bleached
households which whatever whatever works for your asshole we
support its health and safety and pleasure.
Riley Reyes 51:18
I feel like instead of save the whales, we should have T shirts
have saved the anus. really forget who it was. I saw speaking I
think it was Jessica Drake who was up on a stage making the
audience stay with her. No more Oops, wrong whole whole mica.
Because it's like that's not an acceptable way to try to negotiate
to get anal.
Yvette d'Entremont 51:38
Nobody doesn't know they're sticking it in there. Or at least I
don't think that's the thing you can do. If you've ever felt the
warmth of one and the other you don't go Oh, I couldn't tell what.
No,
Riley Reyes 51:51
I've had some clumsy things where they almost started to but
honestly it's tight enough spot that like you notice pretty quickly
like
Yvette d'Entremont 52:00
It's not like all of a sudden this vagina got to the point where
you have to like shove it in like that's not a thing
Unknown Speaker 52:06
like why is there suddenly that this resistance? It's because it's
a different hole, bro.
Yvette d'Entremont 52:11
Yeah, this one's got muscular tension man.
Riley Reyes 52:13
I really think it's weird that there are so many guys who want to
put things in and girls and wouldn't even be willing to put a
finger in their own to see what they're doing and they have
prostate, prostate, the thing is in BDSM, a proper top who's
shopping for a crop or a cane or a Flogger will test it on their
own forearm before bringing it home to use on their sub. That way
they know what they're doing, even though they don't enjoy pain.
And I always tell the guys who are in the couples who come to my
angel class like, hey, even if you know penetration isn't your
thing that you want to feel. You should at least put a finger in
yourself sometimes so you know what you're doing.
Yvette d'Entremont 52:52
Yeah, feel what it feels like to work up to it feel like just so
you know, even something small like a finger or a really small
bump. Plug with if not properly worked up to, I've just shoved in
there is gonna hurt and I don't think that people who haven't tried
it or just want it and have no conception that somebody could do
that to them. That's not a thing they consider when being like no I
can just shove this in. I saw it in the porn. That's one of the
biggest pieces of psychoeducation I want to get out there is like
it takes time not just the day of but often like weeks or months
leading up to trying it and that it should be something in which
you know your body it's about pleasure, not about pain and sort of
sacrificing for someone else that's not sexy. So guys just patience
and work and YouTube and have fuckin kick ass but sex
Riley Reyes 53:41
you can. I believe in you.
Alice Vaughn 53:43
We need motivational posters for the show. This is a second time
I'm requesting them so if you want a motivational poster, please
email us at info at two girls one Mike calm. We believe in you and
maybe with an anal scene. Oh my gosh.
Yvette d'Entremont 53:56
I want like just a picture of the mountains in the background with
the phrase use more lube, wash your junk. Just all of our little
things that we use in the show all the time. I just want to wash
your junk one.
Riley Reyes 54:09
I like the idea of one that says I believe in you that's just like
a black gloved fist.
Yvette d'Entremont 54:17
Oh my god. Yeah, I think that's the thing we should start selling
on our website.
Alice Vaughn 54:21
All we need are two of you to write in. That's it, too. And we'll
make it I'll make it I have time. Actually, I don't have time, but
I'll figure it out.
Yvette d'Entremont 54:29
she'll send it to me and be like Yvette, you need to make this
happen. There'll be a division of labor
Alice Vaughn 54:34
will end up going to the EU next year. And we'll start just handing
out different campaign posters. There'll be safety posters, the
do's and don'ts.
Riley Reyes 54:45
I mean, people have so much that they need to know and people get
so many ideas about sexuality from porn. And it's unfortunate that
there isn't a more open sexual dialogue or better sex education in
our culture because to get your sex Education solely from porn is
like, trying to learn to drive from watching Fast and Furious or
trying to learn from to fight from watching WWE. It's just not what
you do. It's for entertainment. It's for titillation, and it's fun.
But if that's the only information you're getting, you have a
serious gap in your education.
Unknown Speaker 55:19
So listeners of the show know that one of the ways that I learned
my sex education was through Cosmo, the magazine. Yeah, yeah, I see
your faces on common.
Unknown Speaker 55:31
Yeah, it happened to me too. And it took like my 20s to undo all of
that damage.
Unknown Speaker 55:35
Oh, it did put a doughnut on your man's dick. No, do not do
that.
Unknown Speaker 55:40
Oh, I used to shoelace on a guy's dick because Cosmo said it would
spice things up. Oh, I need to
Yvette d'Entremont 55:47
know how this how this worked out. What did you do with the
shoelace to the deck
Alice Vaughn 55:51
wraps it around the deck kind of Indian burned him? It's not my
fault. It's
Yvette d'Entremont 55:57
Cosmo. What the fuck
Riley Reyes 55:59
you Use a shoelace for like, almost like cotton balls bondage in
which you could like sort of go with like a figure rate around the
balls and you could create that like constriction, so it'd be like
a caulk ring, and sort of simulation, but it's a little dummy. And
it requires skills. And you'd have to do some research there.
Alice Vaughn 56:19
Oh, no, this was set like 18 year old Alice had no idea what she
was doing. Got all her sex ed and not from Catholic school, but
from cosmopolitan. So
Yvette d'Entremont 56:30
there we go. I've had also ice cubes I've used on men. Don't do
that. I think I dated a guy who used Cosmo for his sex tips because
he got the impression that ice cubes in there was a delightful
experience. And I was tied up at the time. I'm sitting here going
this is not the worst thing that I've had. It's been a pleasure.
Fine. I'm a little bit of a of a masochist, to play into someone's
sadistic tendencies, but at the same time, I'm like, Who told
someone this is gonna be a good time?
Riley Reyes 56:59
Yeah, ice really is More of a thing that you can use for torture
unless you temper it a bit like you can hold it in your mouth and
like run it gently over someone switch a little bit cooling or you
can hold it in your hand and just drip the cool water if you want
to be sensual but again, these are all these are all skills that
require finesse.
Yvette d'Entremont 57:15
This person filled a condom with water and froze it.
Unknown Speaker 57:20
Oh god. Oh yeah, that is kinky in a painful way.
Yvette d'Entremont 57:25
Yeah, like if it's for the record not thing I I found out that was
not a thing I was into it I feel like like and I just don't like
the cold anyway, so why would I like it directly on my lady parts.
So that's also more sexual adventures you have the more things you
find out you're into or not into
Alice Vaughn 57:42
think I just read the article of how to use items in your kitchen
junk drawer during sexual roleplay one on one spatulas SATs amazed
spatulas I have a femme Dom clip that's kinda like that, in which I
have them do terrible, torturous things to themselves with things
they might find in a case. And drunk door set the whole point is
that I'm torturing them. So
Yvette d'Entremont 58:04
I taught a class once on Home Depot in the bedroom genius was just
how to you know, improvise with everything in there and like no
matter what you walk in there and there have to be at least like
three aisles that you're like, there are toys, I could do something
with this and it's now if people haven't thought about this when
they walked into Home Depot every time they're gonna walk by the
ropes and the change and every other thing they're going to be
like,
Alice Vaughn 58:25
Are you kidding me? Just go to doorknobs those are all book
plugs.
Yvette d'Entremont 58:29
How would I not thought of this? I'm slipping.
Riley Reyes 58:32
I'm a big fan of the pet store in the bedroom like PetSmart as a
sex toy store that's just got so much weird like stuff with collars
that are fantastic. All these little toys I can like use this gags
and stuff like all these various like choke chains and, and things
and, and then vet wrap that wrap is amazing for bondage. You do
have to go get yourself some medical shears for removal. But it's
so easy to get the bondage tapes cheap proven bondage tape. Yeah,
it's like bondage tape. I don't know if it's more or less
expensive, but it adheres to itself really well. It's stretchy,
unlike bondage tape because it's designed to be a badge, right? It
sticks to itself really well. You can use it to completely wrap
someone frog their legs and arms if you like, use it for impromptu
cuffs. It's amazing. You just need to get yourself some like
medical safety shears to take it off. But it is my favorite bondage
implement of all time.
Alice Vaughn 59:28
So now I'm picturing a squeaky toy being used for anal I would do
that. I pay for it.
Unknown Speaker 59:36
I'm also picturing it being used to like for puppy play because
some people are into being treated like a dog. And that's the other
thing is I like puppy play stuff. So I've got an assortment of pet
things. Are there masks too. I don't
Riley Reyes 59:48
have the full mask. I do have the rubber butt plug tail, which I
like.
Yvette d'Entremont 59:53
That's fun. I am indeed a fan of butt plugs with tails on them. I
accept your judgment people.
Alice Vaughn 59:58
Yeah, well, a lot of nerds. Like that. So what you guys are saying
is you can role play as the squirrel eating the taco shell.
Unknown Speaker 1:00:09
And we can put you in a tree with the green screen. So this is all
looping back together for this scene we're eventually going to
create together.
Riley Reyes 1:00:17
And then that squirrel tail would become my Horcrux.
Unknown Speaker 1:00:21
Yep, yeah, we've tied it all together. We're geniuses. I think the
show is wrapped up. It has a bow on it. We planned this everyone.
Yeah, we were that on top of our ship this week that we
weren't.
Alice Vaughn 1:00:32
I am never that on top of my shit. alysus though, God. So Riley,
where can our listeners find more of you?
Riley Reyes 1:00:41
If you want to find me on Twitter? It's at Riley rea triple x
that's ri le y r e y x x x. Or you can buy my femme Dom clips. I
want Riley Reyes calm. And if you keep track of me on social media,
you can find out about my upcoming projects in both my education
and in terms of my subscription,
Alice Vaughn 1:01:05
sexy stuff. Awesome and we'll link to all of that in the show
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Unknown Speaker 1:01:46
girls one Mike and y'all think I'm weird here it gets way weirder
on Patreon.
Alice Vaughn 1:01:50
Yeah, we we talk about stuff stuff that we let tales
Yvette d'Entremont 1:01:54
out of school, spill the tea, the tea at all. It all comes down to
the counter in there.
Alice Vaughn 1:02:00
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Yvette d'Entremont 1:02:07
can find me over at the side babe on Twitter and Instagram and
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Alice Vaughn 1:02:17
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Yvette d'Entremont 1:02:45
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Alice Vaughn 1:02:47
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Yvette d'Entremont 1:02:51
again next week. Bye bye bye.
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